Grabbits, which one?

[joiner_sim]

I have found two grabbit's that im interested in buying. The trend one is cheaper than the Boa Constrictor one. Which one is better though, they both look exactly the same. :roll:

http://www.machinemart.co.uk/shop/p...ve/path/05-drill-bits-screwdriver-bits-steels

http://www.machinemart.co.uk/shop/p...er/path/05-drill-bits-screwdriver-bits-steels

Thanks for the advice :wink:

 

[Streepips]

Be cheaper to just use better screws in the first place.
If its a one off just buy the cheapest, if its a regular thing. well why is it happening?
If its a reclamation renovation project buy one of each then you know which is best

 

[seanybaby]

just use better screws in the first place

Free screws are bollocks. It takes so much more time to sort one broken head, than it costs to buy a box of screws.

 

[JonnyD]

Its unlikely to find anyone with experience of both products to give you an opinion as to which product is best.

I bought the trend product to remove a screw which had been mangled by someone else. The trend one didnt work for me as i ended up drilling out the screw.

Jon

 

[Woody Alan]

I think if the screw is rubbish enough to break then the chances of these working is remote, but I haven't tried so is just supposition. What I would suggesst is one of these
http://www.rutlands.co.uk/cgi-bin/psProdDet.cgi/DKWSE1
and a plug cutter.

Alan

 

[joiner_sim]

I have only realistically got one chance at this. I'm trying to remove the bolt in a UPVc locking system door, the one that attaches to the barrel. As the locks need top be changed.

 

[pobo]

hi joiner_ sim,
i have the trend (the only vote so far) but haven't used the other. find it works ok, it gets about 3 out of 4 screws out but not always works. i find it doesn't work very well on screws less the size 8 or m5 screws. ( sorry these number maybe wrong from memory)

i've need them for removing security screws, but find they work quite well on the rounded bolts.

you then to use them as "if all else fails" because they can remove the head if the screws are smaller

good luck
pete

 

[Streepips]

Simon,
I expect this is on one of the older euro locks that can be snapped with a pair of mole grips is it?
I doubt if this is a wood screw, more likely a machine screw and the way I would do it is to "pop" the centre ( GOOD centre punch, fine point, grind it if you have to,) the get a COBALT drill bit, say 2mm and slowly drill about 5mm deep. then a larger bit approx same size as the shank of the screw, NOT outer diameter of the threads, and drill it out.
Steady hand and dead level and you should still have the retaining threads left to mount the new lock.
If you don't fancy this then sub it out to a UPVC repair team and add their charge to your bill.

 

[joiner_sim]

I'm thinking. Do I tell the customer I can do it, but if the grabbit fails, I cannot be held liable to expenses or do I just refuse to do it?

 

[Streepips]

I think I just answered that one above, if you are not confident sub it out. The customer just wants the job doing and will thank you more for just getting it done rather than leaving them to get it done.
Explain it will need more than one skillset and you can organise it for them rather than just passing the prob back to the customer. Just be honest, and the customer will respect you for that

 

[Streepips]

and forget about the extractors, grabbits or any type, they are gimmicks and will just complicate the issue.

 

[Corset]

If it is a euro lock i would second the mole grip tip. I work at a letting agents and we have countless lock problems and the mole grip wiggle works every time. I don't know how much we have seaved in locksmiths over the years.