Glue Tests

[transatlantic]

Came across this video for testing some of the common glues. The results are quite surprising. I haven't used Cascamite, but always assumed it was a good gap filling glue .... not according to these results. In fact, normal PVA type wood glue appears to be far superior?

What do you think?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZoaTZY5cSQE&t=741s

Results : https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/ ... =321279609

 

[custard]

What do you think?

I think the internet is actually a pretty poor resource for woodworkers, spreading as much disinformation, fallacies, and prejudice as it does hard facts.

I watched the first twenty seconds of this video and that was enough. This guy is just an armchair warrior trying to maximise his Youtube exposure, hence his hysterically indignant and sensationalist tone.

If I thought there was anything in his comments I'd first of all repeat his tests so I could see for myself, but to be honest I can't be bothered. To paraphrase Jay-Z, "I've got 99 problems but gap filling glues ain't one of them"!

 

[thetyreman]

What do you think?

try it for yourself, do your own tests and experiments. Personally I'd rather be making something or learning a new joint or skill, or improving my existing skills, tighter joints means less glue needed.

 

[transatlantic]

To paraphrase Jay-Z, "I've got 99 problems but gap filling glues ain't one of them"!

ha! (drop mic?)

 

[transatlantic]

What do you think?

try it for yourself, do your own tests and experiments. Personally I'd rather be making something or learning a new joint or skill, or improving my existing skills, tighter joints means less glue needed.

This all cropped up due to my latest project. A picture frame (about 600mm square). It is the first time I have gone from rough sawn boards (American White Oak) to a finished item. Unfortunately, I didn't quite get the milling right, and ended up with a bit of twist (I know what I did wrong), which resulted in some gappy mitres.

Wanting to still complete the project, I ended up doing the glue up with 30 minute epoxy. Which was a bit of a nightmare, as I needed to lay it flat, but then epoxy was getting everywhere, as well as me risking gluing the frame to my bench!

Not something I would try again. I think next time I'll try CA glue, and then some splines.

 

[marcros]

CA wouldn't be a good choice here.

 

[Bodgers]

CA wouldn't be a good choice here.

Yep. Strength aside, given practically zero open time and no ability to reposition anything, it would be complete nightmare.



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[woodbloke66]

What do you think?

I think the internet is actually a pretty poor resource for woodworkers, spreading as much disinformation, fallacies, and prejudice as it does hard facts.

I watched the first twenty seconds of this video and that was enough. This guy is just an armchair warrior trying to maximise his Youtube exposure, hence his hysterically indignant and sensationalist tone.

Yep, usual Utoob t'internet dross. I'm surprised you managed twenty seconds Custard, I clicked away after ten - Rob

 

[woodbloke66]

This all cropped up due to my latest project. A picture frame (about 600mm square). It is the first time I have gone from rough sawn boards (American White Oak) to a finished item. Unfortunately, I didn't quite get the milling right, and ended up with a bit of twist (I know what I did wrong), which resulted in some gappy mitres.

Wanting to still complete the project, I ended up doing the glue up with 30 minute epoxy. Which was a bit of a nightmare, as I needed to lay it flat, but then epoxy was getting everywhere, as well as me risking gluing the frame to my bench!

Not something I would try again. I think next time I'll try CA glue, and then some splines.

I'd suggest the next time, you get the frame absolutely spot on, especially with something that big. If it's the slightest bit out of kilter, you're liable to crack the glass and if it's the 'clarity' non-reflective sort (highly recommended) you could be (for that size) £200+ down - Rob

 

[transatlantic]

This all cropped up due to my latest project. A picture frame (about 600mm square). It is the first time I have gone from rough sawn boards (American White Oak) to a finished item. Unfortunately, I didn't quite get the milling right, and ended up with a bit of twist (I know what I did wrong), which resulted in some gappy mitres.

Wanting to still complete the project, I ended up doing the glue up with 30 minute epoxy. Which was a bit of a nightmare, as I needed to lay it flat, but then epoxy was getting everywhere, as well as me risking gluing the frame to my bench!

Not something I would try again. I think next time I'll try CA glue, and then some splines.

I'd suggest the next time, you get the frame absolutely spot on, especially with something that big. If it's the slightest bit out of kilter, you're liable to crack the glass and if it's the 'clarity' non-reflective sort (highly recommended) you could be (for that size) £200+ down - Rob

Crack the glass? I'm not going to try and force the glass in if thats what you mean. It'll just sit in the rebate as is.

 

[Phil Pascoe]

No, he means the frame is likely to wind and crack the glass.

 

[woodbloke66]

No, he means the frame is likely to wind and crack the glass.

That's it; when the frame is in wind, the bottom of the rebate where the glass sits isn't dead level. As a consequence, your'e liable to crack the glass when the pic is assembled - Rob

 

[MikeG.]

...... To paraphrase Jay-Z.......

I was with you right up to this point, then you lost me completely.