Gloat - New Tool

[Harbo]

Here's my new Blue Spruce marking knife:

Actually it's a copy I made this afternoon.
Blade from a Stanley knife. I did not have a long enough piece of Blackwood so could not quite match the tail piece - was going to cut it off but I quite like it? Also no domed ferrule.

Rod :lol:

 

[woodbloke]

Rod - these are quite good to do...her's a couple I've recently made:

...wood is Austalian Burr Myrtle that Martin the Woodkateer gave to me back in Novemeber. Blades are from a bandsaw blade, hardened and tempered - Rob

 

[Paul Chapman]

Very nice. All you two need to do now is to knock out some replicas of those Blue Spruce chisels.........

Cheers :wink:

Paul

 

[Harbo]

Nice ones Rob - I was going to use that blade you gave me that I put safely away in my workshop - could not find it!!

Rod

 

[woodbloke]

Rod - how did you go about securing the blade into the brass insert on your knife? - Rob

 

[gidon]

Very nice! Any WIP pics?
Cheers
Gidon

 

[Philly]

Very smart, Rod!
Philly

 

[Waka]

Rob

Those two look familiar :lol: :lol:

 

[jonbikebod]

Rod and Woodbloke, were did you source your ferules from please?
Jon.

 

[woodbloke]

I got my ferules from Ashley Isles at Yandles the other week...25p each - Rob

 

[tnimble]

Nice one Rod! (there are some scratches on the blade :-$ ). Yours to Roy.

(you people should come up with more distinctive names, Roy, Rod, Rob,.... even roys are signing with rich )

 

[Benchwayze]

Rod and Woodbloke, were did you source your ferules from please?
Jon.

Hi Jon,

Every chance I get I save lengths of copper or brass tubing/water pipe.
I can't dome the ends, but used with care, this stuff makes great ferrules on older chisels that need new handles. Most English, older chisels had straight edged ferrules anyway, and I prefer the copper colour to the brass. But I'm and oddball!

:wink:

Regards
John

 

[Harbo]

Ferrules from AI but about 2 years ago
I have been trying to find some domed ones like Derek Cohen uses ( Zenith shelf support bushes) but cannot find them over here?

I did think about WIP but I think Rob has already done so?

Handle turned on lathe with end cut to fit ferrule. Ferrule fitted then drilled (on lathe) 6mm hole for brass blade support. Handle sanded and finished on lathe. Cut off very carefully - my piece of wood was a bit short so had to compromise with tail end using 1/8" parting tool.
Knife support from 6mm brass rod - cut a slot down centre a short distance, then rounded off with files, papers and paste. Slot then extended to cover blade end.
Blade made from Stanley blade - outline marked out with fine marker pen and cut on my new Norton 3X wheel. Buried end cut to 6mm width (same as brass).
Blade polished and sharpened and pushed into brass support.
This was then glued into handle with Araldite.

Hope this helps - if I do another one I will take some photos?

Rod

 

[tnimble]

You can make domed ferules from wate pipe. Cut a bit over length, heat up the copper with a propane burner and form it over a form (iron or steel is hard enough) using a smaller warrngton type hammer. Clean up with sanding (after air collong down) on the lathe by putting the ferule(s) on a mandrel. Then polish them.

 

[woodbloke]

Harbo wrote:

I did think about WIP but I think Rob has already done so?

Rod - I haven't done a series of WIP shots but if anyone is interested I will do as I have another couple to do, one for Chisel (who supplied the blade steel) and the other for Pete Newton. Of the two shown in the previous pic, Waka's got one knife and Martin has the other - Rob

 

[Benchwayze]

You can make domed ferules from wate pipe. Cut a bit over length, heat up the copper with a propane burner and form it over a form (iron or steel is hard enough) using a smaller warrngton type hammer. Clean up with sanding (after air collong down) on the lathe by putting the ferule(s) on a mandrel. Then polish them.

Ahhh yes Tnimble... You might be able to do that. I couldn't possibly dare to try! Lol!
:lol:

I suppose I could make thick ferrules from brass rod, by boring them out, and shaping the thick wall, at the end. But I'd need a metalworlker's lathe or a good pillar drill and vice for that.

You have a sound idea though. Maybe I should practice.

Regards

John

 

[tnimble]

I suppose I could make thick ferrules from brass rod, by boring them out, and shaping the thick wall, at the end. But I'd need a metalworlker's lathe or a good pillar drill and vice for that.

And a bag of money since mostly you're producing waste (over 90% I guess). Wich is Ok it you have an all brass or copper workng area and collect all the waste to have it remelted.

By the way instead of using pluming pipe you can also buy copper, brass and bronse tubing. Altough don't botter with some of the alloys avaiable which are only turnable.

 

[Benchwayze]

That's true tnimble. However, I have more than enough scrap brass, copper, bronze etc. rod and tube stashed away. Nothing in great lengths, but years ago, I used to buy bits and pieces from scrap-yards.
The tools I already have, in parlous condition mind, but just about useable. So I suppose in my case, my 'squirrelling' habit will have paid off!

I could still buy bits and pieces from scrap-yards, but that would be considerably more expensive I agree.
Regards
John

 

[jonbikebod]

Thanks Rob and Rod. I found some brass pipe intended for model engineering on the ‘bay. They come in a range of sizes so I can tinker to get the look and the feel right. Aesthetically I think I prefer a parallel ferule, I associate the rounded ones with American tools.
Jon.

 

[djgaloot]

You can make domed ferules from wate pipe. Cut a bit over length, heat up the copper with a propane burner and form it over a form (iron or steel is hard enough) using a smaller warrngton type hammer. Clean up with sanding (after air collong down) on the lathe by putting the ferule(s) on a mandrel. Then polish them.

Ahhh yes Tnimble... You might be able to do that. I couldn't possibly dare to try! Lol!
:lol:

Here in the states we use what are called "compression fittings" that are brass fittings to secure copper tubing. The nuts come in various sizes and configurations but are usually hex shaped and threaded on the inside. The round-over on one end to match the diameter of the copper tube. These make great homemade ferrules. If you have a wood lathe or drill press you can make a tight fitting wood mandrel to screw the nut onto and then "turn" the nut to the desired shape using a metal file. Check out the plumbing section in a store that sells plumbing supplies.

Dave Jeske
Blue Spruce Toolworks, LLC