Front door

[Stormer1940]

I've been asked to make this door by a friend. Looking at it I would say that the thing would possibly move all over the place?

What would you guys suggest the best way of constructing this is? Are the upright banding's with the studs planted on the face and fixed with the studs. I'm assuming there is some sort of brace on the back? Door thickness must be over the standard 44mm because of the backset panelling.

Just looking for a heads up on the construction method.

Thanks in advance.

 

[RobinBHM]

Ive made doors like these with 3 muntins. That way the panels sit in rebates individually.

Muntins are made thinner so cover beads can be planted on to hold panels in place

Bottom bead can be a projection bead and the 3 vertical beads have angled end cuts to suit.

Much easier to make without the arched head of course!

The door style doesnt suit the knocker or studs. The door is very narrow, which doesnt make the design look great. I would include a knocker rail if a door knocker is required. Cover beads would look better wider for the studs. Best to buy ironmongery before starting door!

 

[PAC1]

I am just finishing one. On mine the up rights are part of the frame to hold the panels that float. The difficult joint is the head as it is splayed. The studs come with shirt screws to screw into the timber.
Mine is 57mm thick

 

[ColeyS1]

From looking at the pic it looks just like a normal framed ledge and brace door. I think (can't be 100% sure from the pic) that the nailed batten bit is just nailed on the joint after - looks like it extends past the bottom rail depending on how the studs fit, you could possibly sneak a small screw or nail in then the stud head would cover it.

Coley

 

[chippy1970]

Could you not just make it up with one big panel in veneered plywood. Then just add everything to the face of the plywood. I wonder if the other side is identical. If so you could screw through the plywood into the identical parts then hide the screws with pellets or do it as they've done

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[Rob Platt]

you could make a pattern 10 door with a curved head and put in a ply panel instead of glass then cover bead and fit glass viewer
all the best
rob

 

[Stormer1940]

Thanks guys. Hopefully got a clearer idea now. Not sure if a veneered ply is the sort of finish he is looking for. Regarding the the knocker, well there isn't going to be one. The width of the door I have worked out to be around 830mm x 1980mm. What proportions would you say would look best as in Stile width, muntins, top and bottom rails?

Is this what you mean PAC1 as in the part of the framework? + do you have a link to the stud you refer to as the ones I know about are hammer in.

From looking at the pic it looks just like a normal framed ledge and brace door. I think (can't be 100% sure from the pic) that the nailed batten bit is just nailed on the joint after - looks like it extends past the bottom rail depending on how the studs fit, you could possibly sneak a small screw or nail in then the stud head would cover it.

Coley

I was originally thinking that but as you said it's hard to tell because you cant see the back plus you be putting studs straight through the middle of the tongue. Not sure if that is wise or not.

 

[ColeyS1]

Here's one I did a couple months ago.

If you had a bit of stud work something like the last pic on the back, it might look a bit more like panels from the inside. Personally I'd just treat the studs as decorative and look at fixing them using another method ( hidden screw, or pin) there's no reason the batten bit can't be glue on one edge of the board.

Coley

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Edit: forgot to mention, literally just a tongue and groove door with thick stiles

 

[Stormer1940]

I sent him a picture of a door that I did before. He has now decided to not have the studs. I was thinking I can do similar but make the thickness of the muntins thinner to get the set back look. Not sure why I thought the muntins were set back. Now I can see why if there were 4 panels that the door would look cluttered if not very wide. Think I've answered my own question. Think I was confused over if it was as Coley suggested just a matchboard door with cover fillets. From what I gather straight from the horses mouth they are just cover fillets so could quite easily be a matchboard framed door with a brace on the back...