Filler

[andrewm]

Not really the subject for a 'serious' woodworking forum but:

I normally use a two part epoxy based wood filler for small gaps but I have a much patched door frame - not least that the door has had its direction reversed - that I want to prepare for painting. There are gaps as well as surface blemishes. Something like Polyfilla might do but I would really rather use something that is going to stand up to knocks a bit better. What would anyone recommend?

Andrew

 

[SketchUp Guru]

I think if you mix up regular epoxy with some fine wood flour you'll end up with a pretty durable filler. It'll be harder than the wood.

 

[OllyK]

Not really the subject for a 'serious' woodworking forum but:

I normally use a two part epoxy based wood filler for small gaps but I have a much patched door frame - not least that the door has had its direction reversed - that I want to prepare for painting. There are gaps as well as surface blemishes. Something like Polyfilla might do but I would really rather use something that is going to stand up to knocks a bit better. What would anyone recommend?

Andrew

If it's small stuff you can buy "plastic" wood and similar that retain some flexibility and yet are still sandable. Other alternatives include mixing saw dust with cascamite or similar.

If it's large consider dutchmen.

 

[andrewm]

I think if you mix up regular epoxy with some fine wood flour you'll end up with a pretty durable filler. It'll be harder than the wood.

The problem with epoxy for this is exactly that it is harder than the wood. I really need something I can spread around and then sand down - much as I would with Pollyfilla (Spackle?) on walls.

If it's large consider dutchmen.

What's a Dutchman - other than one who lives in Holland?

Andrew

 

[SketchUp Guru]

Epoxy filled with wood dust can be mixed to the consisitency of spackle or peanut butter or whatever you like so it can be spread. It can also be sanded but if you were to clamp some pieces of wood, wrapped in plastic tape over the epoxy until it cures, you might get away without doing any sanding.

A Dutchman is a piece of wood made to fill a space. Usually the space is cut out so the shape of the dutchman is easily fitted to it. Perhaps its name comes from the story of the little boy protecting his country from a hole in a dike.

 

[Chris Knight]

Car body filler - polyester is what I would use. You can't beat it. It's cheap, sets fats, sands and paints very well and is strong and won't fall out or shrink.

I use it for quite a few things of a woodworking nature - eg filling holes in surfaces to be veneered or otherwise disguised, temprary fixings etc.

 

[Steve Maskery]

Andrew
If there are gaps, I would consider using decorators caulk. It comes in a tube, gun application. It's a lot more flexible that epoxy, so good for internal corners. Not really a surface filler though.

BTW, if it says, "No need to sand" on the instructions, rewrite that to read, "Cannot be sanded". You have to smooth it down with a damp cloth before it cures. Trying to sand it just pulls it all up.

HTH
Steve

PS Dave -

 

[andrewm]

A Dutchman is a piece of wood made to fill a space. Usually the space is cut out so the shape of the dutchman is easily fitted to it. Perhaps its name comes from the story of the little boy protecting his country from a hole in a dike.

I have Dutchmen, A whole family of them where all the old hinges and catch used to be. The rest is just surface irregularities, dents, chips etc. In retrospect I probably should have replaced the whole frame but that should have been done before the plastering.

Andrew[/u]

 

[SketchUp Guru]

Maybe you could just plaster over the opening. That would save you lots of work. :lol: :lol:

 

[Digit]

A Dutchman is the best option. Using a router template and 2 guide bushes, once painted, the repair should be invisible.

Roy.

 

[Chris Knight]

A Dutchman for a doorframe - probably a bit of softwood - that is in bad condition and will in any case be painted sounds a bit OTT to me.

 

[Steve Maskery]

Hear about the Dutchman who started a vehicle leasing company? His name was Hertz van Rental.
Ooooh I'm such a wag.
S
There's no joke like an old joke.

 

[brianhabby]

Car body filler - polyester is what I would use. You can't beat it. It's cheap, sets fats, sands and paints very well and is strong and won't fall out or shrink.

I use it for quite a few things of a woodworking nature - eg filling holes in surfaces to be veneered or otherwise disguised, temprary fixings etc.

Second that.

Car body filler is the perfect solution

regards

Brian

 

[steve tighe]

Dutchman...???

Where the hell did that come from ? Another article in a magazine...?

It's called "piecing in"



Some of these names are ridiculous,they really are.




Two pack filler's fine to use on most holes,cracks etc.If you're filling a big hole,scrap out what's left of the deadknot then fire a few pins in at angles just below the surface to hold the filler in place when it's gone off,not a bad idea to double fill as well,in other words fill half the hole (top half or bottom,don't matter :? ) then fill the rest when it's gone off,gravity can have an affect on two pack if you fill something that isn't lying flat on it's back.


edit just googled it...an American term

 

[Digit]

http://www.bgs.state.vt.us/facilities/e ... _09950.doc

See above for definition.

Roy.

 

[steve tighe]

Doesn't work.


Take it I was too slow in googling ?





Just googled snipe & comb climbing,more American terms...?


Like I said,ridiculous.

This is a UK forum,use UK terminology.

 

[Digit]

Don't know what happened there.
American generally, agreed, but UK use of Americanisms is not exactly unusual.

Roy.

 

[Slim]

This is a UK forum,use UK terminology.

OK, can you give me the "UK" terminology for snipe and climb cutting?

 

[steve tighe]

Fair enough Roy but sometimes it's worth checking out if the same terminology is used in both countries,what's used in the states might not be the same as used over here.

That's three different terms I've heard in as many weeks that I've never heard before,at least I know why now.

 

[Digit]

I'll hazard a guess that 'Snipe' is the same as UK and that 'Climb Cutting' is the same as 'Clime Milling' here.
But Amercanisms are pretty wide spread here, OK! :roll:
Sorry!
Even over here there used to be considerable difference in meanings to the same words, two to kick off with would be 'Bodger' and 'Skiver'.

Roy.