Festool Domino "loose" settings

[Spectric]

No, you would just need to make your guide in a way that it can be rotated 180 so as to be referencing off the same thing both sides.

This is the idea behind this jig



It is going to be a winter project for me and the guy Carmonius Finsnickeri was the original version but now there is a Woodpecker version / copy called mortice match



but at £830 that is one very expensive jig.

https://woodworkersworkshop.co.uk/w...NfImNtyBGYAk1YLVDGn5c1xB4MI_6YBRWiemT9C22-zMW

 

[Jake]

I think OCD is expensive.

 

[Spectric]

If nothing else it certainly gives incentive to make your own if you fancy one.

 

[AJB Temple]

What we need is someone to invent mortice and tenon joints.

 

[Jake]

It just seems like some people want to eliminate all hand skills from power tool usage. I mean OK, if you want to pursue that to the nth degree then fine, but trusting in yourself to develop the hand skills to use power tools would be a better ROI.

 

[Spectric]

I was curious enough to look at the Dowelmax as an alternative to the domi, the setting up seems rather time consuming and fussy along with having to make allowance for any offsetting, either by the use of separate spacers and or/using a measured offset from a guide fence, when doing a mid panel joint, in one example I watched he had to measure and set it at 4.5mm, that's a tricky one! whereas with my 700 I know it's always 15mm off.

That is the downside to most dowel jigs, the Dowelmax you have to add spacers between the reference fence and block, the Jessem is easier in that respect but needs external clamping whereas the Dowelmax it is built in. Also with the Dowelmax you have two configurations so more setup, it does make you plan ahead though and it is not a fast process even when it comes to glue up and is why I thought a Domino 700 would fill the gap. But ended up also getting the Jessem dowel jig which does 6, 8, 10 and 12mm dowels so in some cases I can use less dowels.

 

[Spectric]

What we need is someone to invent mortice and tenon joints.

What about the skill, so also need people to teach basic woodworking skills that were once taught in schools and of course we seem to be short on time these days.

 

[Sideways]

It just seems like some people want to eliminate all hand skills from power tool usage. I mean OK, if you want to pursue that to the nth degree then fine, but trusting in yourself to develop the hand skills to use power tools would be a better ROI.

That's a good observation.

Part of the joy of woodworking is learning the manual skill.

At the same time, powertools nudge us towards the boundary with "engineering", and there the use of jigs, repeatable precision, all the toyota manufacturing system techniques aimed at eliminating error and improving consistency are what gave us the product quality and reliability that we all take for granted these days - and we reject goods if they don't meet our expectations.

Personally, one of my most used tools is a simple 600mm steel rule with a sliding stop.
I use it all the time when I want to make cuts and holes at a distance from an edge and where repeatability will improve my work because using the stop speeds me up and reduces the chance of error even when only a single cut is needed.

I think my take away from my first experiments with the domino are that I need to fabricate a "story stick" in metal with multiple sliding blocks on it so I can simply position the side of the domino repeatably and all indexed from one reference edge. This is just a twist on the tool I use all the time anyway. Pretty much a rule with several sliding stops, but able to sit flat on a surface.

 

[HOJ]

but at £830 that is one very expensive jig.

Lost for words, I wonder if the motive for making these gizmos is for those that have invested in a tool, and what ever the incidental cost is, they cant see the reality that perhaps its not the best choice for achieving an end result.

Do they sell?

 

[ola c]

Slack settings are tight in one plane but even medium is absurdly sloppy side to side. +/- 3mm.
If medium was just +/- 1mm this would be way more useful.

In what situations? Only I can think of is if you're very close to an edge.

I agree the medium setting could be tighter but I have problems to see how it would make the Domino way more useful. Sideway support from the Domino itself is already lost with medium setting, if it's lost by 1 or 3mm doesn't really matter for the strength or alignment of the joint.

 

[Spectric]

@ola c have you done anything new to your domino jig ?

 

[ola c]

@ola c have you done anything new to your domino jig ?

No it's unchanged. If I would do it again I would switch to the microjig clamps as they have a slightly better clamp interface (those were not invented when I made the first version of my jig).

 

[Spectric]

I am going to make another as a winter project but spend more time and make it better, I rushed the last one and it had some niggles. I already use the microjig system on my MFT tables so that might well be included in the new one.

 

[ola c]

I am going to make another as a winter project but spend more time and make it better, I rushed the last one and it had some niggles. I already use the microjig system on my MFT tables so that might well be included in the new one.

I would maybe also rout shallow grooves for the right and left straight fences to give them a solid hard reference.

Interesting to see what you come up with this winter.

 

[Blackswanwood]

In case anyone has not received the email from Axminster and is interested in making their own dominos they have just launched a new router cutter …


https://www.axminstertools.com/ujk-...Day+4+Router+Cutters20241113Manual+-+Targeted

 

[Spectric]

In case anyone has not received the email from Axminster and is interested in making their own dominos they have just launched a new router cutter

Yes I saw that but noticed they do not cut the flutes .

These ones do

https://www.findbuytool.com/collect...ter-bits-for-festool-df700-domino-tenons-3pcs