Extracting from the big Triton when used in a table

[The Bear]

I,ve had this in the cupboard for nearly 2 years following the great BandQ sell off. I'm now planning my router table build.

The Big Triton has a clear plastic shroud around it that a 38mm hose screws into for extracting. Has anyone used this to extract with when the router is upside down in a table? Did it work? Where did you get the hose from?

Or is it best to box it in and add a few ramps New Yankee style? I assume I need to remove the shroud for this? I've not looked that close is this easily removed?

Or even a mixture of both?

I will extract from the fence as well


Thoughts?

Mark

 

[LocalOak]

I've got one in a table and I use to jam an extractor hose into the clear perspex outlet and that worked OK, but then I simply boxed it in and it works much better. There are probably better designs than mine but I just put a crude, square box around it with a flap for access latched shut and a hole for the extractor tube. Works fine for me.

 

[LeeElms]

If you try to extract from below the table and from the fence the suction tends to cancel out and isn't very effective.

 

[trousers]

Tell us more Lee.
What is your set up - hose size, extractor etc?
Table saws extract from below and above and that works efficiently enough.

 

[LeeElms]

I was mainly recalling some advice I saw on this forum quite a few years ago ... don't think it would be that easy to find it again.

I did try it a while ago with the Triton router on an old B&Q router table; I think with the Trend T30AF (I think connected to the router) and a Record Power DX5000 (connected to the fence). It seemed at lot less effective than when using either one of the extractors on it's own.

 

[L Harding]

i'd be interested to know if anyone else agrees or disagrees with this as i am currently building a router table (its actually a outfeed table for the TS come router table meaning i can also use the sliding carriage on the router table) and had planned to have below table and fence extraction both powered by a large extractor.

 

[Argee]

In my experience, when using the router hand-held and extracting via the built-in port in the clear plastic base shroud, the vertical shrouds can aid extraction, but only by a very small amount. When they are obscured by dust, they're actually a hindrance, IMO, so I removed mine and have never refitted them. I continue to extract as above when hand-held with no problems. A stepped adapter will work for quite a few hose sizes, whereas Triton hoses screw straight in (LHT).

Extracting when inverted in the table depends largely (wholly, really) upon the work being undertaken. For example, straight cutters and rail and stile sets are often best extracted from above via the fence, because the cutters repel waste horizontally and the fence mouth can deal with it fairly easily. A greatly reduced-power extraction from below (if available) can be used in conjunction, to deal with the falling stragglers. Ogee, chamfers etc. and some rebates are best extracted from below, due to the fact that the cutter is below the wood and the waste will tend to be propelled (and will fall) downwards. There is rarely any point in using fence-mounted extraction for these profiles - I use the hose in the same way as hand-held extraction described above.

Cutting trenches or housing joints (dadoes) is another task altogether, as once the trench clears the router bit, all dust will be channeled along it to the left - then it's every man for himself. I've tried several methods, including a large-volume hose clamped horizontally, then vertically under the trench. Nothing is 100% effective, so good luck with those!

Ray

 

[Shultzy]

I suppose the answer is to regulate the lower extraction pipe to increase or decrease the flow of air depending on the type of cutter used.

 

[trousers]

i'd be interested to know if anyone else agrees or disagrees with this as i am currently building a router table (its actually a outfeed table for the TS come router table meaning i can also use the sliding carriage on the router table) and had planned to have below table and fence extraction both powered by a large extractor.

I was thinking along these lines myself as I hate sweeping up :lol:

If you go to www.benchmark.20m.com the guy there has done something like it. But bear in mind from the pictures of his clean workshop it doesn't look like he's actually ever done any woodwork :roll: Mind you, p'raps his dust extraction works so well he doesn't need to clean up.
Lots of other stuff on the site as well.

 

[The Bear]

Ray
Without going to look then, am in right in thinking that removing the shroud, doesn't also remove the dust port?

Has anyone used both the dust port and built it in a box to know which is best?

I ask as I am intending to build a new yankee style table so it will be built in anyway, I just wont do it too elaborately if it is still best to just put a hose on the dust port

Mark

 

[Argee]

Ray
Without going to look then, am in right in thinking that removing the shroud, doesn't also remove the dust port?

As you can see from this picture:

The base shroud is separate from the vertical shrouds.

Ray

 

[rileytoolworks]

TROUSERS WROTE

If you go to www.benchmark.20m.com the guy there has done something like it. But bear in mind from the pictures of his clean workshop it doesn't look like he's actually ever done any woodwork :roll: Mind you, p'raps his dust extraction works so well he doesn't need to clean up.
Lots of other stuff on the site as well.

Bloody hell, that workshop is bigger than my house, garden and allotment put together!!!

Adam.

 

[Chems]

I built a table for my Triton Router, valuable tool if you take the time to use it. I normally use one or the other, either below or fence. My table still isn't finished but I plan to have the router boxed in eventually to hold all the extra dust in and will probably make a ramp and hose attachment like you described.

 

[L Harding]

That cant be a real workshop, just a showroom for his tools. That or he spends longer cleaning the place than making stuff in it