Diesel vs petrol pricing

[RogerS]

A couple of years ago the price differential beteween the two was minimal. In fact I seem to remeber diesel being less than petrol. But now, the price difference is well overf 10p a litre down my way.

So my question is why?

Is it the raw material cost ?

Extra stealth tax by GB?

Profiteering by the oil companies?

 

[NeilO]

Two of the above , I suspect Roger...

hint, cant see the distillation of deisel any more expensive than petrol..

so its a stealth tax for the government, and privateering of big companies...Oops I mean profiteering :lol:

 

[cant-weld-wood]

i can remember when it was around 2/3 may be or even half the price
and when i past my driving test some 20 years ago.
it was around £1 a gallon then now wouldn't it be nice to see them prices back at the pumps again

 

[Waka]

I think you'll find that the tax on diesel is more than on petrol, when diesel was cheaper than petrol everyione started changing overe to diesel cars, 1, because the fuel was cheaper and 2, because you got more MPG, so if we all change then we'll tax you more.

Now lets look at LPG, if this was to really take off in the UK like Europe then you can bet that the tax will increase, so no matter what you use in your car they wil have you one way or the other.

Noticed one of our local filling stations made a rise of 2p over two days. I'm sure the oil companies are racking it in at the moment, they are the ones that complain about the price of crude etc, but they are actually producing the crude oil and selling it to themselves for refining. I'm afrai8d that we the consumer just can't win, if you own a car no matter what it runs on if the taxman doesn't get you the oil companies will, I wouldn't be surprized to see the price at 150p a ltr by the end of the year the way things are going.

 

[beech1948]

The issue is that HMGov included a Fuel Duty Escalator in the way that the duty iscalulated. So its a % addition to the fuel price from the refineries.
The Diesel Escalator started when diesel was below petrol in price but I guess that the price increases in raw fuel have been more for diesel so the Escalator has increased the duty much more.

All in all its time the sodding Gov'mt stopped the use of this Escalator as well as reduced taxes on fuels. The environmental case ithey use is utter rubbish and just an appeal to gullible emotion not fact.

alan

 

[Slim]

I thought diesel was considerably cheaper than petrol to produce as it is less refined. I paid 121.9p today. petrol was a 109.9p. It is getting rather ridiculous. I don't object to higher fuel prices, but I think diesel should be brought in line with petrol. Especially as it is much cleaner nowadays, and it is more economical.

 

[andycktm]

Let's have a look into the crystal ball.......
A diesel does more to the gallon ,so the diesel driver's
can be pushed a bit closer to the edge.............

 

[jasonB]

I don't find much difference between thecost of the two....

But I do run my Scooby on V-power/Super UL/99Ron which is usually 10p a ltrs more than 95Ron

 

[RogerS]

Well..diesel down my way is 124.9 a litre

 

[Paul Chapman]

I remember that there was a lot of "encouragement" by the Government for everyone to buy diesel cars in the days when diesels weren't very good (remember the old Ford diesel engines - 0 to 60 in three weeks - and the one in the Austin/Rover Montego that filled the street with soot when you started it up :shock: ). Certainly in the public sector any cars bought had to be diesel. Then when everyone had bought one, they put up the price of diesel. Call me cynical, but...........

Cheers :wink:

Paul

 

[RogerS]

... Then when everyone had bought one, they put up the price of diesel. Call me cynical, but...........

Cheers :wink:

Paul

Put up the price or increased the tax relative to petrol?

 

[andycktm]

I think all the money men are walking all over
Brown,he's not in control.The country nearly stopped last time and
it's way higher priced today,can't be good for him :lol: :lol:
Gas
Electric
Fuel
Food
all above him.

 

[Rich]

back in 74, I could fill my Vauxhall Victor 2000 fd for £12.00, today, £30.00 in my Volvo 2.3 does'nt even reach halway on the gauge, same size tank, somebody is making an awful lot of dosh at our expense, I feel that this has got to stop somewhere, if you take this scenario to it's natural conclusion, less people will be driving, less revenue for the government so taxes will go up elsewhere, say cigarettes for example, so people stop smoking, less revenue, same with booze, water, electricity, gas, FOOD, I can see us all heading for the same court as mr Mcawber, where, if your outgoings are more than your incomings, you have a problem, WHAT will the chancellor do when people stop spending because they have nothing left to spend, btw, what is the price of blood?

regards, Rich.

 

[Harbo]

When I started driving petrol was 4shillings and ten pence a gallon.
I would fill up with 4 gallons and let the petrol attendant keep the 8 pence change from a pound!
Now it costs me £70 plus to fill up!! (Different car though )

Rod

 

[andycktm]

Earliest i can remember is about 1979, i think it was 58p a gallon 2 star!(moped.)
I remember once coming home from the coast on the motorbike tank went on reserve ,7pm middle of nowhere.
Then i found a garage it was just closing the attendant said i could have what was in "the pipe" £2 worth......... filled the tank!!!!


13p a litre!!!!!!!! :shock:

 

[DaveL]

Earliest i can remember is about 1979, i think it was 58p a gallon 2 star!(moped.)

Well when I first had a bike on the road in 1971, 2 star was 31p a gallon, but I can remember walking to the garage to get petrol for the rotary hoe, with a 2 gallon can and a 10 bob note, trouble is I can't remember how much chage I came back with, must be a sign of getting old. 8-[

 

[ike]

In '76 I filled my Landie for £5.00. Today it's £50. The old bitch hasn't lost its thirst, in fact it's probably a bit the worse for wear - avg 16 mpg in these 'ere 'ills! (but I can't bear to sell her)
:shock:
Ike

 

[BradNaylor]

Much as I love a good conspiracy theory, I fear that the reason for diesel becoming more expensive than petrol is simply supply and demand.

From what I can remember from my chemistry lessons, crude oil is refined by a distillation process and results in different qualities of oils, ranging from very light spirit down to heavy bitumen. A certain proportion of the crude oil will become petrol, a certain proportion aviation fuel, and a certain proportion diesel etc etc.

Demand for diesel oil 30 years ago was pretty much confined to goods vehicles and taxis, and it was relatively cheap. As more and more diesel cars have been sold however, demand has risen enormously while relatively, demand for petrol has fallen.

The proportion of petrol and diesel that oil companies are able to refine from crude oil remains pretty much the same though, leading to shifts in the price differential between the two products.

I don't suppose the gummant's helped matters though!

Cheers
Dan

 

[Matt_S]

diesel does have more damaging fumes, and I think the government use this to justify the higher tax banding on diesel cars so maybe same applies to fuel? it's to do with the particles i believe

 

[Digit]

I don't suppose the gummant's helped matters though!

What a shocking idea? :lol:

Roy.