Dare I ask!

[Rhossydd]

I'd still be keen to know what people think of the Triton or Scheppach options?

From what I've seen, anything written above about the Tormek can be said for the Triton/Scheppach/Record wet stone systems. They all look pretty much identical and the jigs may be interchangeable between brands (check first though).
Do the sums on the various bits you'll need to match facilities and there probably won't be huge saving between 'like for like' set ups when I last looked. The Tormek may be a little more expensive, but it's name might hold it's value better in the long term. All that advertising has to have some value to them ;-)

 

[DiscoStu]

One of the Scheppach ones can be bought for around £100.


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[Rhossydd]

One of the Scheppach ones can be bought for around £100.

and the jigs to fit it cost how much ?

Compare 'like for like'

 

[DiscoStu]

Well the turning tool jig for the Scheppach costs £45 and for the Tormek £68. That's on the D&M site. I'm sure I might be able to find better prices for both but it's probably reasonably indicative.

I'm more of a Skoda guy than an Audi guy - I'm not bothered about paying for names but I do like a good quality product that's isn't going to fall apart. I'm trying to establish if the Triton and Scheppch are of equal quality just without the badge or if they are made of cheese and no use whatsoever.

Equally if I should be lashing out the cash should be be going Pro Edge? That seems to be the general consensus?


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[Ian B]

You could also go old school, and keep your eye out for a Viceroy Sharpedge. I picked one up in need of a cleanup but complete for 80 quid last year. It has a small motor, so if you find a 3 phase one, converting it to single phase would be an easy job.

Just make sure it comes with the swivelling planer / chisel holder. The grinding wheel look as if it'll last forever.

Ian

 

[deema]

Like most people I have tried to find the sharpening solution that I feel is the best for me.

I have a Tomak but don't use it for turning tools, I find it causes hollows in the stone too quickly and is far too slow. However, for every other tool that has a flat rather than shaped edge, it's the weapon of choice.

The grinder for me is the best solution for turning tools as it offers much more utility for rough sharpening / reshaping of tools. The best solution I've found is the Crusen 200mm machine. They often come up on eBay for very few pennies and the quality of the build which shows in how true the spindles run as brilliant.

I use my Tormak jigs in the grinder, I bought the Jet arm support, which by magic also fits perfectly all of the Tormak jigs and is a fraction of the price and mounted that in front of the grinder. I've found that the Jet and Tormak jigs are interchangeable.

I use the grey Alu Oxide stones that came with the grinder, by dressing them before they become clogged I find no difference between them and white or pink wheels.

 

[Rhossydd]

Equally if I should be lashing out the cash should be be going.....

Which ever you choose it could be a significant investment, so don't rush into it.
Take up Custard's invitation to see a SPE in action for some unbiased advice.

You're also not very far away from Yandles. They have the SPE on display to try, plus they also stock Tormek, Triton and Record wet stone grinders (which may also be on demo too, I can't remember). Go and have a good look at all the options, possibly take some tools and get them to demonstrate the different systems.
They're really helpful and their prices are good too.

 

[woodpig]

Another vote for the Sorby Pro Edge. Unlike other systems you can change the grit in an instant, well almost.

 

[sunnybob]

I have a jet wetstone sharpener, and my skill levels are minimal, but I am very pleased with the edges achieved.
I am concerned that the stone appears to be shrinking already though

 

[brianhabby]

I have recently purchased a Sorby Pro-Edge after a friend showed me his. I have been using a standard bench grinder for years with varying degrees of success. The Pro-Edge is a no brainer for me, giving perfect & repeatable results every time. I have no experience with the Tormek or similar so can't comment on those.

One thing that has not been mentioned, so it may not be considered important is that the Pro-Edge gives a flat grind whereas a wheeled device gives a hollow grind. I am no expert but would have thought that a flat grind gives a stronger & therefore, longer lasting, edge.

regards

Brian

PS. Take up Custard's offer, I think it will make up your mind for you.

 

[brianhabby]

I have recently purchased a Sorby Pro-Edge after a friend showed me his. I have been using a standard bench grinder for years with varying degrees of success. The Pro-Edge is a no brainer for me, giving perfect & repeatable results every time. I have no experience with the Tormek or similar so can't comment on those.

One thing that has not been mentioned, so it may not be considered important is that the Pro-Edge gives a flat grind whereas a wheeled device gives a hollow grind. I am no expert but would have thought that a flat grind gives a stronger & therefore, longer lasting, edge.

regards

Brian

PS. Take up Custard's offer, I think it will make up your mind for you.

 

[YorkshireMartin]

I am no expert but would have thought that a flat grind gives a stronger & therefore, longer lasting, edge

I'm no expert either, far from it.

My impression was that leading/cutting edge longevity was the same, regardless of whether the blade is hollow or flat ground. The difference between the two being the ease of resharpening. Hollow grind having the advantage simple because there is less material to remove, therefore grinding takes less time.

You raise a very interesting point.

PS. Before even reading this thread I knew from the title that it would involve sharpening...! (hammer) :roll: :lol:

 

[DiscoStu]

I don't know why sharpening appears to be such a controversial subject.

Thanks for all the replies. I think it's helped. I think I will probably take custard up on his very kind offer. Yandles is probably a 2 hour drive away so not that close, so I probably won't go and see them. I thought Deema's grinder and Tormak jig option to be interesting. Whilst I'd like a solution for all of my tools the main thing I want to use it for is my turning tools.


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