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Woodmatt

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Hi All,
I am considering signing up a Woodworking magazine for the year.Can anyone recommend a good one? I did buy a copy of "Good woodworking" and was very disappointed with the content,is this a good example of what current magazines are like.I am signed up to "Fine Woodworking" online which is great and am considering subscribing to the paper copy but would like to get a good UK based mag.

Thanks Matthew
 
I guess it all depends on why you want. I've got a good wood working subscription but when it arrives I've usually finished with it within 20mins.


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Hi Matthew
I used to write for some of the magazines but gave it up when my pay rate was halved by a new policy, the mag in question decided to pay only on a per 1000 word basis and not for the pictures. Since woodworking explanations involve photos in large numbers it killed the incentive to submit anything.
The mags are unable to stem the tide of on line information and "how to do" articles and are adding to their own downfall by putting articles on line on their own websites. The magazine you mentioned has a large number of articles under the projects heading some with my name on! The GMC titles also do the same, if you look around on line you can find articles on how to make all manner of things complete with detailed plans in many instances. At about £4 per issue for loads of adverts, equipment tests, and with very little new content which can't already be found online I fear that things will not improve even if the economy does.
Woodworking no longer seems to feature in schools so school leavers haven't even got the very basic skills which might have turned them into keen amateurs or given them a hands on experience which turned into a career choice.
 
i'd try on online version of fine woodworking from the usa for a year. loads of info for £25
 
I've got the paper based subscription to FWW and really enjoy it. I think it's the best woodworking magazine I've come across to date. As mentioned by a previous poster above, I find I'm through with Good Woodworking after about 20 minutes. Apart from adverts there really isn't much more to it. I'd definitely like to find another mag to subscribe to, preferably UK based so I don't get cheap wood/sheet goods envy, to go with FWW but I'd rather nothing than tosh I'm afraid.
 
Thanks for the replies guys,Mike I did think that the demise of the magazines may well be due to cost saving and the internet.Selwyn I already have a subscription to the online FWW which I agree is great I just would like to have a magazine to read sometimes rather than sitting with the laptop/tablet.I know it will be duplicating but I just might have to sign up for the hard copy of FWW rather than get a mag through the post that is a waste of time,money and the cutting down of a tree to produce it.
 
Another writer here, rather more ex than I would like to be.

The best UK mag of recent years was generally acknowledged as British woodworking. But then I used to write for it so I am biased. But Nick, the editor, had a bicycle accident a couple of years ago and is no longer publishing the magazine.

As Mike has pointed out above, rates of pay are poor, and it's not just the writing. The photographs, diagrams, cutting lists etc, are all extra and by the sounds of it, the writer is now expected to provide that for free. It can take longer to do the drawings than it does to write the words. Nick always paid me relatively well (but then I provided him with material that needed little post-processing). I know that some other magazines are a lot less generous. And even my pay went up just 10% in 16 years.

The first time you get a piece published it is a real buzz, and getting paid is a bonus. But for many of the regulars it was an important part of one's monthly income. I certainly miss it.

I still write a bit for LegnoLab in Italy, but it's not generous and they take out the costs of translation. I do it to keep my hand in, to be honest.

There is an enormous amount of free stuff on the web, varying from excellent, by people who know what they are talking about but don't need to make a living from it, to poor and positively dangerous stuff, to stolen IP offered for sale at very attractive prices, when none of the money goes to the owners of that IP.

Unfortunately, ultimately, people who could produce IP but who need to be paid for their work will simply stop going to the trouble of writing, photographing and drawing. It takes time to do well and if it's not producing an income, why bother?

I'm glad you want to buy a magazine and are interested in quality. But that costs money and unfortunately there are far too few people who are prepared to fund the creation of that material.

I'm trying to get going with video again and the issue of how to get paid for it is still the bug bear. YouTube is free, why should anyone fork out for my stuff?

Magazine sales, of all genres, are in decline. The more successful ones, notably Fine Woodworking, have made a good job of going digital, but the days of trad paper magazines are, I'm afraid, very numbered. And there is not very much that has come along to replace them.

And it's all down to money.
 
I think magazines are up against it, but I do think they are not looking closely enough at what they could do. They should be engaging more with manufacturers and doing interviews with designers ie at Festool. Factory tours etc. Also tool reviews, anyone can review a tool they've bought (like they do in a magazine) but what about some good head to head battles? I've seen the odd one but it would be good to see more and I'm sure they just have to contact suppliers and they get sent whatever they ask for. The same could be true for timber merchants and tool suppliers.

Also why not run an event / challenge where you ask people to create a step by step guide to making a table or whatever and publish the different methods used and times etc. You could have one using dominos, another with a router to create dove tails and another hand crafted etc. Show the results as different ways to do things.

I think there's loads that they could do but they seem to be focused on an old style.

I'd like to see a test on which wood working glue is best for example. Not many home users are going to buy 10 different types and try it, so it would be valuable to have them tested. That sort of thing!


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I'm a bit surprised that nobody's mentioned Furniture and Cabinetmaking. It's UK produced, so the adverts are more relevant to the UK woodworker, and the range and depth of articles is better than FWW I think. FWW is a very glossy publication with lots of superb photos and artwork, but the content seems a bit limited and basic after a while. If you can find it, Popular Woodworking is the better of the American-published titles.

I do note what others say about the decline of print relative to web-based content. I think the print publications are trying to move in the internet direction, but when budgets are tight that's not necessarily an easy thing to do.
 
I've not seen it for a long time, but yes, F&C did always produce a good job in the past.
I got the impression they were trying to aim a bit higher up. It wasn't uncommon to see a 5K Universal machine being reviewed!
IIRC they don't pay terribly well, though. Maybe I was spoiled by Nick.

But yes, generally a good mag.

PW is FWW's little brother. I like it and used to subscribe. The issue for me was the distribution. I bet I had to ask for a replacement copy about 50% of the time. It was very frustrating to receive issue X, only to realise that I was still waiting for issue X-1.
 
Steve Maskery":1doj4laa said:
PW is FWW's little brother. I like it and used to subscribe. The issue for me was the distribution. I bet I had to ask for a replacement copy about 50% of the time. It was very frustrating to receive issue X, only to realise that I was still waiting for issue X-1.

That's interesting - I used to buy a copy in W H Smith's when I was passing. Up to Christmas, that worked fine, but it seems to have completely disappeared since. I was half-thinking about taking out a subscription, but based on your experience I'll keep my pennies in my pocket!
 
I had the same problem as Steve,half the issues either didn't turn up without asking and sometimes never arrived even after asking.A number of times I looked for a copy at Smith's but never found one,but maybe that's a Wales problem.

I have now resubscribed to the printed copy of FWW.Last time I had printed copies was in 2006 and still find them good re reading.
 
I've subscribed to Fine Woodworking for a few years now, and generally I'm happy with it. Although I have been tempted to jump to their competitor Popular Woodworking. I do buy a lot of British magazines, but have yet to decided which one to subscribe to as like most magazines, some months they are pure garbage, and others months a brilliant read.

I find the US magazines far better laid out, with better quality photos - they just look more professional - however magazine budget will obviously play a big part.

I find a lot of the British mags poorly laid out with blurry amateurish photos and some months they read like a tool catalogue as there are so much advertisements in them, but reading the posts above, I now know it's probably the woodworker or article writer that has provided the photos as well. So I can understand as I'm no photographer and probably couldn't do any better. And with a lot less readership and budget, they do a good job I suppose.

However saying that, some months the photos are so poor, I wonder why the editor allowed them to go into the magazine.

I do like Furniture and Cabinetmaking - a really well laid out mag, well written and clear professional looking photos.

Jonny
 
I currently take both F&C and FWW.

I think the current editor of F&C is doing a great job of trying to make it more relevant to it's audience which is probably advanced rather than beginner although it does do a bit of both.

Obviously FWW has a load of of Americanisms but I surprised myself how easy I found it to ignore them and concentrate on the woodworking itself. Again some great ideas and ways of doing things. I did note that almost all shots of a table saw now include a riving knife!
 
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