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Just to add to the picture, think of this for a while. I have a great friend in the Peak District who was away climbing in a remote part of Australia when he got an urgent "get home now" message from his kids. Three days of travel got him back to the airport, and on to a flight home, which was crowded with people coughing. He got himself home on Thursday. His wife had bowel and intestinal cancer last year, and after chemo and various other treatments has virtually no immune system. They use separate doors, live in separate halves of the house, and speak at 3 or 4 metres distance only in the garden, or on the phone. Never mind 12 weeks, she will have to stay isolated until there is a cure or a vaccine, and he will have to stay as isolated as her for as long as her, for fear of bringing this bug home. If she catches this bug now she will die.

Just add to that the fact that rough as it has been for me, I am still in the "mild" category. When people hear this is a mild disease for 80% who get it, all that means is that they recover at home without having to be admitted to hospital. Don't get fooled by that description. The mild form of the disease that I have got would kill most of your mothers and fathers if you are over, say, 50. Do whatever you can to keep them safe.
 
MikeG.":16n7degp said:
Just to add to the picture, think of this for a while. I have a great friend in the Peak District who was away climbing in a remote part of Australia when he got an urgent "get home now" message from his kids. Three days of travel got him back to the airport, and on to a flight home, which was crowded with people coughing. He got himself home on Thursday. His wife had bowel and intestinal cancer last year, and after chemo and various other treatments has virtually no immune system. They use separate doors, live in separate halves of the house, and speak at 3 or 4 metres distance only in the garden, or on the phone. Never mind 12 weeks, she will have to stay isolated until there is a cure or a vaccine, and he will have to stay as isolated as her for as long as her, for fear of bringing this bug home. If she catches this bug now she will die.

Just add to that the fact that rough as it has been for me, I am still in the "mild" category. When people hear this is a mild disease for 80% who get it, all that means is that they recover at home without having to be admitted to hospital. Don't get fooled by that description. The mild form of the disease that I have got would kill most of your mothers and fathers if you are over, say, 50.

True, everyone needs to do their best to avoid this thing, regardless of age or health.

Hope you get through this 7-10 day point ok, seems to be the critical phase for a lot.
 
Blackswanwood":j8fji5zu said:
FatmanG":j8fji5zu said:
i wont say anything else mate i genuinely appreciate your post

Top man - I’m in your neck of the woods so when all this kerfuffle blows over let’s resolve to catch up and talk woodwork!
I would be honoured
 
Phil Pascoe":24klzv5i said:
I do wish politicians and people giving advice and telling us the law would be more careful. A few days ago I watched B.J. tell the nation that state schools would close and private schools and nurseries would be asked to close. Ten minutes later on the BBC news it was announced that all schools and nurseries had been ordered to close. Last night B.J. told us we were allowed to leave our homes for one form of excercise - so we could go for several walks ( for instance) the way I heard that - and today we are told that we can leave home once only. This is undoubtedly what he meant, but these things shouldn't be ambiguous. Pedantic, I know.
I heard within not many minutes to take ibuprofen if we didn't have paracetamol, and from another source that ibuprofen can affect the immune system and not to take it.

Only a total fool would think its the same form of excercise multiple times over versus one excercise event. For goodness sake the whole point of this is to reduce your exposure whilst still being compassionate towards the need to get some fresh air
 
Phil Pascoe":2jmw4rgq said:
So he should have said one excerise period and not one form of excercise. My point.

Are you being deliberately stupid to get some attention?
 
I'm confused I live directly opposite a building site for new builds. I was under the impression the govt had ordered non essential workers to stay at home. There are the same vans parked in the street the same inconsiderate plumber parked in my disabled space and the work continues.
 

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Irish Rover":1jqm6pm6 said:
Phil Pascoe":1jqm6pm6 said:
So he should have said one excerise period and not one form of excercise. My point.

Are you being deliberately stupid to get some attention?
Dont talk to Phil with that tone please.

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FatmanG":202jafsj said:
I'm confused I live directly opposite a building site for new builds. I was under the impression the govt had ordered non essential workers to stay at home. There are the same vans parked in the street the same inconsiderate plumber parked in my disabled space and the work continues.

A neighbour of mine works for a local groundworks firm who are working on new build on the edge of the village. I noticed that he had gone to work this morning but was back home by about 9.30, so presumably they are not working.

Nigel.
 
They are definitely working Nigel I am watching a bloke laying bricks on scaffolding as I type the numbers are definitely reduced and the constant numbers of trucks arriving /leavingisnt there but sure as eggs are eggs there's work happening.
 
Some building work is going on near us, I saw the builder turn up this morning, pack things away, collect some tools and then leave. I am guessing that although he is safe as he almost always works alone, he probably can't get enough supplies delivered now.
 
I don't want to turn into victor meldrew or similar and start posting more photos of what's going on but I have just taken several pics of workers working like I say I'm confused are they essential workers or are they not?
 
I heard on the news this morning that they hadn't asked construction sites to close though they're soon going to run out of materials as the merchants shut down.

I'd report that plumber to the authorities as he's breaking the law unless he has a blue badge. Maybe send him a text to that mobile number first politely asking him park elsewhere might make him think.
 
We aren't the alone in stupidity and slow government reactions. Following a 'phone chat with my brother in Sydney yesterday we got an email from my sister in law, he're a section of that. The medical conditions she refers to are very serious and put both her parents in the very high risk category!

Wish mum and dad would self isolate but they keep popping up to the shops because They are bored. They are driving me crazy and I am perfectly able to deliver the groceries and help them out but every time I turn my back on them they toddle off to the shops. They both have medical conditions and are highly susceptible.
We have three asthmatics in our house me Hannah and Fin so not jolly for all of us and our government is giving us lots of lovely mixed messages we have been told to close all essential services but apparently bottle shops and cafes are essential as Well as shops and pharmacies so at the moment coffee shops are open with take aways and businesses are open with skeleton staff.
Schools ‘should close’ but if you need to send your kids to school you can!!!! Very frustrating.
Funniest thing was when we heard bottle shops would close down yesterday (Which now they are not because they are ‘essential’). All the guys in our street were calling each other going crazy.... ‘go now.... get the alcohol’
 
Lons":1vmjeqr9 said:
I heard on the news this morning that they hadn't asked construction sites to close though they're soon going to run out of materials as the merchants shut down.

I'd report that plumber to the authorities as he's breaking the law unless he has a blue badge. Maybe send him a text to that mobile number first politely asking him park elsewhere might make him think.


I asked him politely to park elsewhere as that was the only place I could be picked up safely the other side in front of my house is a bus stop. He told me to basically to EFF off and soon started to puff his chest. I wished at the time it was 10 years ago for one I wouldn't of felt so useless
 
Andy Kev.":d4kyeshc said:
RogerS":d4kyeshc said:
Andy Kev.":d4kyeshc said:
....

You really think that Jake is not Jacob? I think I'd put a tenner on it and I'm not given to betting.

...

You're being very childish. I know both of them and can assure you that they are two different people.
I can assure you that there is nothing childish about making a judgement bases on content and style.

This is an excellent proxy for the quality of your judgement.
 
FatmanG":q26a43mt said:
I asked him politely to park elsewhere as that was the only place I could be picked up safely the other side in front of my house is a bus stop. He told me to basically to buzz off and soon started to puff his chest. I wished at the time it was 10 years ago for one I wouldn't of felt so useless
Abuse of disabled spaces is a pet hate!
Maybe stick the photo up on facebook and email to the police. His name and number are all over it and he might not like that too much.
I'd still be inclined to message him first though with the photo if you can, no face to face contact. Depends if you want to risk confrontation.
 
Andy Kev.":2c7mswuw said:
Trainee neophyte":2c7mswuw said:
Easy, tiger. I don't think Jake=Jacob.

You really think that Jake is not Jacob? I think I'd put a tenner on it and I'm not given to betting.

Nah, They're clearly not the same person.
 
MikeG.":3uv9r34c said:
Just add to that the fact that rough as it has been for me, I am still in the "mild" category. When people hear this is a mild disease for 80% who get it, all that means is that they recover at home without having to be admitted to hospital. Don't get fooled by that description. The mild form of the disease that I have got would kill most of your mothers and fathers if you are over, say, 50. Do whatever you can to keep them safe.
Indeed. Mild (in this instance) means not needing to be on a ventilator in hospital. Though to be honest, my wife (NHS doctor) is currently more worried about the lack of basic paper masks than ventilators.

Helpfully they have received some official guidance from the GMC how to cope in the face of insufficient protective equipment... in not-that-many-more words it's basically "send in the youngest healthiest doctor, or the one who's most expendable". I sh*t you not.
 
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