Chip Extractor

[Petey83]

Looking for suggestions on a decent cheap chip extractor for home workshop i am finally about to get. Will be used with either a RP PT107 or Axminster AT107 PT initially and the potentially a band saw. I have a CTL 26 so the router table / hand power tools are covered.

i'd like to keep it cheap so as i have the CTL and want to put the money towards other tools like the bandsaw i mentioned or a pillar drill.

 

[John15]

Hi Petey,

I have an AWEDE2 extractor from Axminster connected to my AT107 P/T and it copes well provided I don't plane off more than 1mm at a time - over that then it struggles a bit.

Hope that helps.

John

 

[Lonsdale73]

Have you checked out the For Sale section? Few listed there at present

 

[MikeJhn]

To be quite honest you want anything that moves the maximum amount of air, I tried all sorts of chip extractors before I realised its the amount of air than is moved for a given time period that counts, my present unit moves 2000M/3/hr and copes with everything I put on it, but that sort of extraction does not come cheap.

http://www.axminster.co.uk/axminster-ho ... tor-501264 with the pleated paper filter its even better.

Mike

 

[MattRoberts]

I agree with Mike - you want to stretch for a 2hp (1.5kw) minimum of you can. If you can't afford a new one, there are often ones on eBay if you have the patience to wait for a bargain. I picked up a 2hp Clarke extractor for £100.

 

[Petey83]

sadly i am not moved yet so can't take advantage of anything in the sales section at the moment.

I was looking at this http://www.axminster.co.uk/axminster-tr ... tor-508483

my thinking was it has the paper filter to allow use on the bandsaw and as a bonus it does not take up lots of space but reading some of your comments and it seems it will be underpowered.

 

[MattRoberts]

It might manage a direct short run connection to an individual machine, but will probably struggle with any duct system

 

[Petey83]

It might manage a direct short run connection to an individual machine, but will probably struggle with any duct system

its likely to be direct connection and a short run in fairness. Workshop is a double length garage so thinking is get this extractor and attach it to the wall and just have the PT and BS either side of it on wheels. This way i can pull out which ever i am using and if i get a quick release clip for the hose it should be a piece of cake to swap over.

For the Kapex, CMS router table and hand tools i will set up some sort of smaller central dust hub to remove the need for me to have to keep messing about attaching things to the CT26.

 

[MattRoberts]

Sure - just bear in mind a couple of things :

The best dust extraction for a mitre saw is often a dust shroud with a 100mm dust port, although the Kapex might be better than most on the CT.

If you're thinking of getting another machine in the near future it might be best to get something beefier now.

If none of those are a concern, then crack on!

 

[Selwyn]

From experience I'd say go for 2hp at least for a pt. i have a Charnwood and its fine. Do an really good web trawl and you should be able to find something nearly under £250 ie SIP, charnwood etc.

http://www.kendaltools.co.uk/shop/produ ... ractor.htm

 

[Petey83]

From experience I'd say go for 2hp at least for a pt. i have a Charnwood and its fine. Do an really good web trawl and you should be able to find something nearly under £250 ie SIP, charnwood etc.

http://www.kendaltools.co.uk/shop/produ ... ractor.htm

priblem is this becomes a lot more expensive with a paper filter added to allow use with the band saw.... i'll need to have a think, may be worth buying the power now and adding a filter later when funds have recovered.

 

[Selwyn]

From experience I'd say go for 2hp at least for a pt. i have a Charnwood and its fine. Do an really good web trawl and you should be able to find something nearly under £250 ie SIP, charnwood etc.

http://www.kendaltools.co.uk/shop/produ ... ractor.htm

priblem is this becomes a lot more expensive with a paper filter added to allow use with the band saw.... i'll need to have a think, may be worth buying the power now and adding a filter later when funds have recovered.

Well personally I exit everthing outside but maybe you can put a thien or cyclone in between? Or for a bandsaw you need less power.

I tend to keep chip extractor for p/t and then better filtration systems for dust stuff

 

[Petey83]

i am thinking a cyclone system connected to something like the below may the better idea for me as i get the chip extraction whilst still being able to use effectively for a bandsaw

https://www.machinemart.co.uk/p/record- ... tion-dust/

OR

https://www.machinemart.co.uk/p/clarke- ... extractor/

can anyone recommend a reasonably priced 100mm inlet cyclone? I have found multiple sources for cheap oil drums or 60ltr plastic drums so just need the cyclone to fit

 

[MattRoberts]

Personally I'd recommend making a thien baffle instead. Much cheaper and smaller than commercial cyclones. I just made one myself a couple of weeks ago :

Otherwise, you can try http://cyclonecentral.co.uk/Store/ or eBay. They're not cheap though!

 

[MikeJhn]

I looked long and hard at Cyclones and baffles and came to the conclusion that all they did was dump the larger particles into the bucket or whatever you where using with the cyclone/baffle and therefore increasing your extractor capacity, the fine particles still get into your ultimate filter as can be seen when inspecting or emptying your extractor, they do delay this event to some extent, but then the bucket still has to be emptied so you will still be in contact with what you where trying to avoid, if you want to put a sack of some sorts into the cyclone this will have to have a cage in it to prevent suction pulling it up into the cyclone, then you have the problem of pulling the sack out of the waste and we are back to square one with coming into contact with what we are trying to avoid.

IMO and it is only my opinion, an efficient extractor with a paper filter takes up far less floor space and is as efficient as it gets, unless you can exhaust to atmosphere which is the most efficient way of diluting the problem, of course efficient face masks are available, but some do not like wearing them.

Mike

 

[MattRoberts]

I agree to a certain extent - separators are primarily designed to separate large chips and particles, and not very fine dust.

However, they do catch a huge amount, and every bit that doesn't hit your filter is one less bit to decrease the efficiency of the filter filtering out the very fine dust and particles.

I'm modifying my design to replace the cloth bag with a shop vac filter unit, which should further help to filter out the fine dust particles and decrease the overall size.

I've not seen any two stage 2hp separator that has as small a footprint as this though...