Jacob
New Luddism. Awake and resist!
Interesting stuff from Jamie Driscoll https://www.facebook.com/JamieDriscollNE
budget
- Thread starter Jacob
- Start date
Help Support UKworkshop.co.uk:
treeturner123
Established Member
I think the man on Question Time got it right, there is, it seems, no politician with an ounce of economic sense. I agree with Jamie Driscoll that we should be taxing multi-nationals more by stopping them using only certain countries as their tax bases. A really good way for example, would be to tax all on line adverts by taxing the platform eg Google and taxing ALL on line sales by adding a few pence to every sale be it direct with the supplier, direct with a private seller or via third parties such as Amazon, Ebay and Ebid.
Also, please explain to me someone how putting more tax on businesses will give the UK better growth. The NHS, Local Authorities etc do not grow the economy.
Finally, what silly person thought that it was a good idea to increase the tax burden on the means of feeding us by changing the rules in inheritance tax on farms. Do we WANT to increase our balance of payment problems by importing more food.
Yes, Economic Illiterates the lot of them!
Phil
Also, please explain to me someone how putting more tax on businesses will give the UK better growth. The NHS, Local Authorities etc do not grow the economy.
Finally, what silly person thought that it was a good idea to increase the tax burden on the means of feeding us by changing the rules in inheritance tax on farms. Do we WANT to increase our balance of payment problems by importing more food.
Yes, Economic Illiterates the lot of them!
Phil
Jacob
New Luddism. Awake and resist!
They most certainly do. 45% of GDP is public spending, with £billions spent on suppliers, infrastructure and services. Not to mention the health, availability, earning/spending capability of the workforce itself. NHS is UK's biggest employer...etc etc
In fact it's really bizarre the way the NHS and other public services are portrayed as some sort of bottomless pit of expense when in fact they are major drivers of the economy and the wealth of all of us.
Apparently it is not as bad as they say - it only affects the mega rich; land owners who most likely are not even farmers themselves.
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2024/nov/01/farmers-shocked-budget-inheritance-tax-estates
Perhaps one of the few progressive things in the budget as land taxes are long overdue IMHO
Last edited:
One of my retirement plans was to buy land and move out west. I spoke to a good friend who's an estate agent, he said prices were high on account of wealthy people buying up land/ farms to avoid inheritance tax.
Phil Pascoe
Established Member
Probably just as likely to be because there's always a chance, no matter how slim of getting planning permission on it.
Hypnotic Chimera
Directional Consultant Extraordinaire
There are several high-profile examples of super-wealthy actually admitting, up-front, that the only reason they bought "farm" was to take that wealth out of scope of inheritance taxation. No other motivation than that. I suspect this was what drew the lens and spotlight onto the existing "loophole". I do believe, quite strongly, that the "loophole" was never supposed to be a "loophole", and was instituted for very, very good reason, and there is still a really strong case to retain it.
But, yet again, it is the super-wealthy that have spoiled it for the people and fundamental reason it was supposed to be designed for - and gives a lot of credence to the notion that it is the power of the the super-wealthy why normal people can't have 'nice things'.
Jacob
New Luddism. Awake and resist!
Jeremy Clarkson said it himself! Mind you he has taken up farming itself, so may be thinking differently about things, if he thinks at all that is.
Hypnotic Chimera
Directional Consultant Extraordinaire
I wasn't thinking of Clarkson here - although I know he said it - because whatever he says in public might or might not be true - he's just an attention seeking bawbag and controversy merchant.
The ones I was referring to are Yorkshire - so not Cotswold or south-west linked.
I finally gave in and watched the Clarkson thing because someone said to me it was educational about farming. I decided after three episodes that it wasn't.
Imagine my surprise.
Phil Pascoe
Established Member
Many in the farming community said it did more for farming than any programme in many years.
Phil Pascoe
Established Member
Hypnotic Chimera
Directional Consultant Extraordinaire
Out of interest - does anyone have any detail on what financial support is available to UK farms? We used to hear that there was a large allowance that flowed to farms from the EU as part of the EU common agricultural policy (food security across the entire block of nations) - I never knew if that EU fund did play a large role in UK farming? Does anyone know if allowances have now been replaced by domestic UK govt allowances?
AJB Temple
Finely figured
And here in a nutshell is how the left destroy prosperity. Jacob actually thinks the NHS drives the economy and wealth of all of us. Perhaps it would be even better if 100% of GDP was consumed by public spending.
RobinBHM
Established Member
Dan Neidle, tax exert says it will affect just 500 farms, possibly as few as 100
RobinBHM
Established Member
Good public services are essential to a successful economy.
A third in UK missed work in 2022 due to delays accessing NHS care
This article is more than 11 months oldPolling by Savanta also shows 19% were not able to go to work as they were waiting for a GP appointment
If you don’t like the budget, please you explain how you would’ve done it better……..bear in mind the last 14 years has decimated public services and that has to be addressed.
RobinBHM
Established Member
Dyson of vacuum cleaner fame has been hoovering up Lincolnshire farmland for tax purposes for several years now as well!
Agreed - and specifically the landowners who already rich from other means!
So who do you think supplies the medicines, bedding, machines used in the NHS? And builds the hospitals, surgeries, A&E units, etc? It's BUSINESS and if the NHS didn't buy who would do it in the UK? Or do you want to pay hiked up USA style heath insurance charges? The NHS is a DRIVER of growth in our country!
AJB Temple
Finely figured
It's OK. Re-wilding is fine. Very socialist friendly. Kneeler, rachel and angie are well known experts on agriculture. Luckily we have Steve Reed in charge of farming and rural affairs. He's definitely an expert as he has a printing background and was a Lambeth councillor. His lifestyle choice is to be gay with no children, so might not empathise with people seeking to keep a small family farm profitable for future generations. Obviously the perfect man for the job when dealing with the farming coimmunity. 
