Bringing goods from the EU

[billw]

Are there any examples of companies coming to GB because we’ve left the EU? Genuine question because all I’ve seen is leavers. Might be the media bias I experience so wonder if anyone’s heard differently?

 

[Jacob]

Are there any examples of companies coming to GB because we’ve left the EU? Genuine question because all I’ve seen is leavers. Might be the media bias I experience so wonder if anyone’s heard differently?

I'd be very surprised!
I've been asking for a long time if anybody can identify any real benefit affecting them, or their business, in any way, i.e. not hypothetical pie in the sky.
Dead silence!

 

[RobinBHM]

I am afraid that the first benefit not being in the EU is the pandemic, we have been able to get what we require and currently we have Vax'ed more than the whole EU put together

EU rules allow nation states to allow vaccines to be used before EMA approval.

The UK could've still been the first to start vaccinating whilst an EU member

So not a Brexit benefit.

 

[RobinBHM]

The Accounts have never been signed off

Actually this is a very old Brexit claim that is not true and never has been.

Like all things Brexit the details are important.

https://fullfact.org/europe/did-auditors-sign-eu-budget/

 

[RobinBHM]

main things that people believed would change was illegal immigrants, coming over from France and the EU criminals that could just come over

Sadly Brexit means less ability of UK to control its borders not more.

The UK no longer has access to Schengen Information system, so it can't easily search to find who people are.

Also UK has lost European Arrest Warrant, so we may have to go back to the old fashioned extradition system.

 

[billw]

Sadly Brexit means less ability of UK to control its borders not more.

The UK no longer has access to Schengen Information system, so it can't easily search to find who people are.

Also UK has lost European Arrest Warrant, so we may have to go back to the old fashioned extradition system.

Isn’t Gibraltar in Schengen now? We could just ask them

 

[RobinBHM]

Isn’t Gibraltar in Schengen now? We could just ask them

Good thinking!

 

[jcassidy]

Just a note, in the Irish papers it's reported that DHL tried to charge a €42 charge fie online purchases from Arnotts department store which is owned by Selfridge's and has goods in warehouses in UK.
Arnotts said DHL had no business charging their customers and have reimbursed. DHL blame the client (I.e. Arnotts/Selfridge's) for providing the wrong paperwork. Lol

 

[Noel]

Are there any examples of companies coming to GB because we’ve left the EU? Genuine question because all I’ve seen is leavers. Might be the media bias I experience so wonder if anyone’s heard differently?

Lots, tonnes of companies, hundreds of multi nationals setting up in GB, the list is endless, there's a queue, DfT is overwhelmed, telephone never stops, switchboard is overloaded, extra staff taken on. Look at the sit vac ads, never ending lists and columns of wanted ads, it's anticipated that there simply won't be enough people in the country to fill all the positions created. It's amazing, amazing I tell you.

 

[Jacob]

OTOH fishermen in Eyemouth on TV this evening complaining about compete halt to their trade.
Other north english and Scottish fishing ports in the same boat.
A lot of their trade is specialised; shellfish, lobster, etc which used to go straight in to frig lorries and off to France in 24 hours. Mallaig is a big one for this and serves the western islands and Hebrides fishing industry. Continuous flow of huge fridge artics up and down the A830 - very improved over recent years to serve the trade
Now stopped dead, due to paper work and other formalities - as many people predicted four years ago, and have been saying ever since.
Tragic, stupid, predicted, but forecasts loudly denied by Johnson and co.

 

[Noel]

https://t.co/j9T1hl1TuF?amp=1

 

[doctor Bob]

are you very hairy Noel?
I'm currently doing a PHD on political leanings and hairyness.

 

[RobinBHM]

OTOH fishermen in Eyemouth on TV this evening complaining about compete halt to their trade.
Other north english and Scottish fishing ports in the same boat.
A lot of their trade is specialised; shellfish, lobster, etc which used to go straight in to frig lorries and off to France in 24 hours. Mallaig is a big one for this and serves the western islands and Hebrides fishing industry. Continuous flow of huge fridge artics up and down the A830 - very improved over recent years to serve the trade
Now stopped dead, due to paper work and other formalities - as many people predicted four years ago, and have been saying ever since.
Tragic, stupid, predicted, but forecasts loudly denied by Johnson and co.

Dismissed as "teething troubles"......

A bit can be put down to that, but delays and cost increases will be permanent and many industries in many sectors will have to make significant changes.....which will mean some businesses closing, some moving to be inside SM and some laying staff off.

That's the consequence of shrinking your frictionless market from $19trillion down to $2.5trillion

 

[Jake]

Compare and contrast:

https://www.politicshome.com/news/a...-rights-pledge-in-new-bill-number-10-confirms

 

[doctor Bob]

I have trouble with some cross posting on various threads by some members.
Some want business shut down in the covid thread, every life counts and all that. Then in this thread business loses 2-5 days trading and it's game over for them.

You need to make your minds up, and stick to your views, you cannot argue one point on one thread and a completely different stance on another. Some of you are purely politically motivated, to me it smacks of selfishness.
The world is in crisis, who gives two tosses about political point scoring on a woodworking forum, to be honest I real feel as though a few on here have issues, good luck to you and I hope you can come through this.

 

[sploo]

are you very hairy Noel?
I'm currently doing a PHD on political leanings and hairyness.

You forgot sandal-wearing Bob.

But... let's be honest; pointing out a bunch of promises made (and warnings repeatedly dismissed) isn't really anything to do with political leanings. Indeed, I'm not sure I could really identify Boris' political beliefs (as I suspect he doesn't really have any). It's not about left vs right, or authoritarianism vs libertarianism; it's about the deceptions of a bunch of lying charlatans, and the realities of the problems they've caused.

 

[sploo]

I have trouble with some cross posting on various threads by some members.
Some want business shut down in the covid thread, every life counts and all that. Then in this thread business loses 2-5 days trading and it's game over for them.

You need to make your minds up, and stick to your views, you cannot argue one point on one thread and a completely different stance on another. Some of you are purely politically motivated, to me it smacks of selfishness.
The world is in crisis, who gives two tosses about political point scoring on a woodworking forum, to be honest I real feel as though a few on here have issues, good luck to you and I hope you can come through this.

That's both a fair point, and a somewhat misguided one. The problems caused (for business) by Brexit are likely to be long term - and entirely self-inflicted (by the nation). Sure we'll get the procedures streamlined in time, but there will be a negative impact to costs for the foreseeable future.

In hand with that, right now we have a global pandemic, and NHS hospitals are seriously struggling. Closing businesses to try to reduce transmission of the virus in the short to medium term (weeks to months) isn't a hypocrisy vs complaining about the problems caused to businesses by Brexit.

Absolutely, some of those businesses may not survive several weeks of lockdown; which is absolutely terrible, and no fault whatsoever of the owners.

 

[doctor Bob]

Rubbish

 

[sploo]

Rubbish

Well... not really. But I respect your right to disagree.

 

[doctor Bob]

Well... not really. But I respect your right to disagree.

Well it is and I also respect your rights.