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I've looked back at the thread, has no-one has mentioned 'Fluxite'? A thick, easily applied paste.

My tin must be twenty years old, and still works wonderfully. Doesn't spill, wipes off easily and is non-corrosive and can be applied very thinly and so stays where it is put unlike Baker's Fluid.

I recommend it to the house.

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I've looked back at the thread, has no-one has mentioned 'Fluxite'?

It is interesting that the word printed on the tin in the picture is different to what you typed. This dual citizenship is also shown on a seller's website. Does your older specimen say the same?

https://soldersandfluxes.co.uk/product/tsc-fluxrite-paste-flux-for-copper-brass-steel/

I wonder if this is a Jif/Cif Marathon/Snickers rebrand. There is a very difficult to read page here on the company history:

https://wandle.org/news/issue31/briefhist.htm
 
I believe I have the book that Chailatte recomends in the workshop series (Ihave a bunch of them). I will have a look this morning. I shall go against the grain and suggest brazing! I have silver soldered many items over the years and I don't find it any more difficult than tin solder. The benefits are being able to choose a rod that more closely matches the metal being joined and strength. (despite its name the rods are available in many mixes of alloys).
 
It is interesting that the word printed on the tin in the picture is different to what you typed. This dual citizenship is also shown on a seller's website. Does your older specimen say the same?

https://soldersandfluxes.co.uk/product/tsc-fluxrite-paste-flux-for-copper-brass-steel/

I wonder if this is a Jif/Cif Marathon/Snickers rebrand. There is a very difficult to read page here on the company history:

https://wandle.org/news/issue31/briefhist.htm
Definitely 'Fluxite' without the 'R' and with a picture of the fiendish looking Elf.

https://www.zoro.co.uk/shop/welding...WWul7B7Dq37eONjc6xnocfiKF8g7c53saAnkdEALw_wcB
 
The big difference between brazing and soldering is oxidation. Brazing occurs at a high enough temperature that you will see a lot of oxidation of the copper, but this doesn't happen anywhere near as much with soldering. When brazing air conditioning pipes, you need to purge the inside using a bottle of oxygen-free nitrogen.

A lot of people will say that you must use an oxygen-fuel torch for brazing, and I did start off using oxy-acetylene myself, but after getting fed up with bottle rental charges. (You can now get acetylene rent-free, there do seem to be supply issues, however: https://hobbyweld.co.uk/product-category/gas-welding/) These days, I use a Bullfinch 404 torch which works well for brazing - At least with smaller pipes: https://www.bes.co.uk/bullfinch-404-lpg-autotorch-brazing-blow-torch-kit-14850/

This chart sums it up:
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I can't fully remember which rods I use off the top of my head as I don't do that much any more and purchased the rods a long time ago, but I believe these Phoson brazing rods are the same:
https://www.bes.co.uk/1-kg-phoson-brazing-rods-15995/

You don't need flux when brazing. I use a shade 3 glasses - the shade depends on the torch you're using, with shade 5 being more suitable when using oxy-acetylene. The hardest part of brazing is seeing when the copper is "cherry red" with the glasses - This isn't a problem when soldering as you are just waiting until the solder melts.
 

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