Bedrock 605 Jack Plane

[eoinsgaff]

I'm had this plane for a bit now but for various reasons I'm not doing much work with it, or any of my tools for that matter. This plane has been posing a problem for me for a while and I thought I'd try to sort it out finally yesterday, but to no avail.

Essentially I've tuned up this baby by flattening the sole and adding a new LN iron. I immediately got a problem with the iron in that I can only get enough through the throat for a very fine shave before the depth adjustment lever no longer engages.

This is not the end of my problem however. The iron is only showing on one side, and the lateral adjustment lever hasn't enough 'scope' to resolve this. I've tried resetting the iron to compensate for this, examined the seating arrangement for the frog and even the squareness of the plane as a whole and the only obvious solution is to shim the frog.

Can anyone offer something on these issues? I see Rob Cosman is selling an iron to solve my first problem but is there another option? The LN iron cost me enough already.

As for my second problem, well, any thoughts would be welcome.

Regards

Eoin

 

[adidat]

i had this same problem with a 607 and a hock blade, its quite a precison thing to do, and requires very slim file. the mouth just needs to be widedend by about 2mm
thanks

adidat

 

[Vann]

....and adding a new LN iron. I immediately got a problem with the iron in that I can only get enough through the throat for a very fine shave before the depth adjustment lever no longer engages.

This is a common problem when upgrading to a thicker iron. The yoke (depth adjustment lever) engages into the slot in the cap-iron, so a thicker iron moves the cap iron further away from the yoke. There are two ways to go, either extend the yoke, or add tabs to the back of the cap-iron.

I assume Bedrocks have cast iron yokes, so extending the yoke can be done by:-
- adding a dab of braze to the end and filing to shape; or
- silver soldering a small piece of steel/brass to the end of the yoke and filing to shape; or
- buying an extended yoke (Clico make them - I bought mine from WH but haven't fitted it yet, so I don't know how well they work).

The alternative is to add two tabs to the back of the cap-iron, one above, and one below the slot. These must be narrow enough to fit within the vertical slot in the cutting iron. I've not tried this but I read that the tabs can be glued, rivetted or machine screwed into place (presumably with very small machine screws). One other method that I'm thinking of trying - on an old cap iron - is to cut slots vertically above and below the yoke slot and deflect (with a few hammer blows) the yoke metal down into the cutting-iron slot.

This is not the end of my problem however... and the lateral adjustment lever hasn't enough 'scope' to resolve this.

I'm not sure what's going on here. Is the disc on the end of the lateral lever too small in diameter for the vertical slot in the cutting iron (i.e. too much slack before it touches the sides of the slot)?

HTH

Cheers, Vann.

 

[eoinsgaff]

Rather than the lateral adjustment lever not being able to move the iron as much as expected, the iron requires too much movement, if that makes sense. In other words, the lateral lever is not the problem.

It would appear that the frog may not be sitting square to the rest of the plane. Then, if one shims the frog square, the iron is now even further back from the throat and the depth adjustment is definitely not going the allow enough iron to be shown.

I'm beginning to wonder if I should sell this off to someone in a better position to fettle this plane than me.

 

[Good Surname or what ?]

Did you buy the standard LN blade or the slightly thinner one designed for old Stanleys?

 

[eoinsgaff]

Just the regular, thicker iron I'm afraid.