BBC Scaremongering again

[powertools]

I think that it would be a good idea for people to be careful what they wish for.
Just maybe the time is not far off when the tv licence will be scraped in favour of a licence for all devices that have access the internet.
Just saying.

 

[Terry - Somerset]

BBC audience under 30 has slumped over the last few years with most younger folk opting for social media, news feeds, Netflix, Sky and other on demand channels.

The BBC is left with older audiences brought up on a diet of limited channels, quality drama, factual, and authorative news. Older viewers outnumber young by a factor of 2:1.

BBC are not stupid - they know that their older audience will diminish over time as the grim reaper does his work.

In an effort reverse decline, they have made the decision to "revitalise" their output - cue the young, culturally diverse, gender equalised, virtuous etc. I'm not convinced it is working - but perhaps their efforts will bear fruit over the next few of years.

It is evident part of their older audience feel alienated and uninterested. They are becoming more tech savvy and changing behaviours to mirror the early adopter younger audience.

In a media market place with several dozen of broadcasters (good and poor) all trying to secure an audience, the BBC has no chance of dominating the airwaves as they once did. It needs to specialise in that at which it excels and drop the rest.

 

[1steven]

I have not watched any BBC programme or any 'live' tv programme since 2016. They are all sheyet. Also, do not use BBC internet offerings or streaming services. Cannot stop the license fee, though, 'cos my wife insists on watching BBC gardening programmes.

Put your foot down

 

[1steven]

So when you stop conflicting gov licence with training how to comply with law, than you will see a massive difference.

As Anarchists I believe ALL should be trained, as part of common knowledge. Knowledge builds individual, and it’s most effective to combat individual fear of unknown.
Fear creates behaviours, and a very need for licensing of ppl without they basic knowledge.

Who would benefit? Not government

Thing is Greg its Ok to give people the tools to do the job but sometimes the people are not the right material

 

[Jacob]

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BBC are not stupid - they know that their older audience will diminish over time as the grim reaper does his work.
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Younger audiences diminish in time too, but later.
Actually the population proportion of older people is higher nowadays, as the NHS does its work.
The viewing figures maybe just reflect greater availability of alternatives, not the decline of BBC.

 

[Thingybob]

Younger audiences diminish in time too, but later.
Actually the population proportion of older people is higher nowadays, as the NHS does its work.
The viewing figures maybe just reflect greater availability of alternatives, not the decline of BBC.

Got no time for all this talk got an Ark to finish for 2022 just a rumour i heard

 

[gregmcateer]

Binary you're wrong, I'm right doesn't sit well with me.
So this lightpaper website - not dismissing it out of hand and also not believing all it says at face value - (seems that's the wisest approach with it and all media providers).
But having had an admittedly brief look at it - who writes it? Who funds it? Who fact checks it?
I ask, because there seems to be general trend to declare MSM, (esp BBC), either govt stooges or some left wing conspiracy, despite the fact that MSM journalists are in the public eye and are prepared to put their names and reputation against their reports.

I remember my late FIL used to read the Times, guardian, sun and occasionally the mail - crazy spend, but at least he got a spread of bias

 

[D_W]

despite the fact that MSM journalists are in the public eye and are prepared to put their names and reputation against their reports.

The advice to read a group is better than reading one (The latter is a variation of verisimilitude). But journalistic standards aren't really that high, and maybe they've never been. It's almost like any other profession - there are standards, and professionals will sometimes get really indignant about adhering to them, and seemingly later, do something that obliterates them and then pass it off as necessary. Journalism has a huge dose of "I'm going to report what should be rather than what is" sometimes. The same kind of idealism that Jacob holds on to.

I've seen the same in other professions - sticky obnoxious insistence on standards sometimes (even where they are immaterial) and then seemingly easy dismissal of applying them in another situation where the issue is material. Quite often for company or personal or boss benefit. As real-time data is available about the popularity of stories and formulas used in constructing them, it's under greater threat now (the ideal "unbiased news" ) than ever.

I agree with your statement that critics often have lower standards by a factor of 10 or 100 (my words), and it's popular to get credibility by disagreeing, but there is a burden of proof, and also a burden of a better idea if one is loaded with opinions. Bernie Sanders is absolutely filled with opinions about what should be. He is intentionally incapable of putting any of it in play - it's on us to push news sources to provide what is rather than saying what isn't coming from someone else.

 

[D_W]

Younger audiences diminish in time too, but later.
Actually the population proportion of older people is higher nowadays, as the NHS does its work.
The viewing figures maybe just reflect greater availability of alternatives, not the decline of BBC.

Older people are a less desirable demographic for advertisers. It's both a current and future issue in the eyes of finance staff, editorial and advertising - the desire is to see current and especially future applicability to the most desirable demographics. The category is often referred to as 18-49 here.

It's interesting when you watch the off channels here (we have a whole gaggle of actual networks, but then each will have 1-5 free digital channels that go with it. When you watch the "Grit" channel, which is mostly 1950s-1970s westerns and war movies, you get nothing but catheter, tardive dyskenesia (must be really profitable meds for that right now - a new area of Rx treatment) and medicare enrollment commercials from services paid to get people to enroll in medicare or certain medicare coverages.

And flex seal.

 

[alz]

Don't think the "older generation" is committed to the BBC anymore. Remembering the quality of the programmes that was once produced by the BBC, it's sad to see the rubbish screened now.
Even the former staff admit the whole service has dumbed-down its content....and as for making old folk pay the licence. There should be a petition to Parliament demanding the BBC finance itself commercially like any other business.
Or maybe each government should being out a daily State Newspaper that the public has to pay for?

 

[Jacob]

Don't people find all the moaning about BBC and other stuff a bit wearing? Is there a bit of a moaning syndrome virus going around?
It's what gave us Brexit in many ways - even more to moan about!
BBC seems fine to me, a bit establishmentarian and timid, good, bad, indifferent quality, as usual. Could be financed straight from tax, the licence is a bit redundant I think.

 

[GregW]

Thing is Greg its Ok to give people the tools to do the job but sometimes the people are not the right material

Everyone is a good material…
If they not, they have been failed by adults to show them how to grow before they become independent adults.
(Most aren’t adults in their 30’…)

How common is the common sense, in common sense in things… something went very horribly wrong with generation X, so since generation Z most can’t hold screw driver in more than two fingers…….

 

[RobinBHM]

Don't people find all the moaning about BBC and other stuff a bit wearing? Is there a bit of a moaning syndrome virus going around?
It's what gave us Brexit in many ways - even more to moan about!
BBC seems fine to me, a bit establishmentarian and timid, good, bad, indifferent quality, as usual. Could be financed straight from tax, the licence is a bit redundant I think.

I agree, I know the BBC is an outdated model, but we should be proud of the BBCs contribution to this great country.

after all the BBC gave us Bob the builder and the Teletubbies.... David Attenborough with his amazing planet earth series

 

[RobinBHM]

it's sad to see the rubbish screened now

I cant say I know -I never watch TV, I tend to just have a DVD box set on the go.

I tend to watch sky news and the sky evening papers

 

[GregW]

I agree, I know the BBC is an outdated model, but we should be proud of the BBCs contribution to this great country.

after all the BBC gave us Bob the builder and the Teletubbies.... David Attenborough with his amazing planet earth series

Teletubbies turn toddlers into alien, while later Bob asking his work equipment to do work for him
No wonder that we got workplace proportion of 4 spaced out managers on one labourer these days

 

[GregW]

I cant say I know -I never watch TV, I tend to just have a DVD box set on the go.

I tend to watch sky news and the sky evening papers

I read tones of books… if I’m not working…..
How about internal struggle and self esteem evolution, while struggling with reality of situation the one was faced with regardless of being well prepared all went to dust. Great examples how to avoid self pity when live becomes serious

DUNE
Cristal Singer

 

[Jacob]

Andy Pandy never did me any harm.

 

[doctor Bob]

Don't people find all the moaning about BBC and other stuff a bit wearing? Is there a bit of a moaning syndrome virus going around?
It's what gave us Brexit in many ways - even more to moan about!

Hang around with real people, it's the internet which creates online moaners, seems better face to face.

 

[doctor Bob]

Andy Pandy never did me any harm.

Yehbut you never saw what he said about you behind your back!!!! I've never forgiven him for calling you "a D------- o-- tw--"

 

[GregW]

Andy Pandy never did me any harm.

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