Basic planes

[head clansman]

Hi Paul

First Paul welcome to the forum

From your own words (I'm a beginner) and my budget is (100) .

You have a very large learning curve in front of you maybe in say a yrs time you'll no longer enjoy messing about with wood spend the type of money others are mentioning wow that's going to be some loss.

As the old saying go's walk before you run, take this time now to learn not only how to use your planes but also how to sharpen them properly remember a plane is only as good as the guy using it , if you don't know how to sharpen it properly etc.

As for the comments about Stanley bailey planes well that up to the individual choice . I have used Stanley bailey from no 6 right the way down to number 2 all my working life and now retired I am still using them.

There's nothing wrong with buying second hand from anywhere its your choice I myself have bought some bloody good Stanley bailey from eBay . As for buying tools from B/Q its a diy store aim higher go to reputable tool shop or buy the old tools second hand a far better quality steel in them, by doing this your going through that learning curve. it all trial and error, along the way you'll make some good choices and maybe some not so good choices.

When I was starting my apprenticeship we all usually started with a Stanley bailey no 5 and a no 4 when you started to improve and you were given bigger job by your master then you would buy a bigger plane , a bloke plane and a rebate plane etc as your work improved so
your tool kit got bigger as you went through that learning curve good luck to you

Any way hope this may be of some help to you it's only my thoughts hope you appreciate them

 

[Digit]

I remember as a member of a photographic club people buying more and more expensive cameras. Didn't seem to improve their pictures much.
An expensive tool that you don't know how to use is likely to be a waste of money, if you haven't yet learned how to sharpen a plane iron all the money in the world isn't going to make it cut.
Horses for courses I think.

Roy.

 

[Anonymous]

If you want evidence of why LNs are worth the money

Check here

https://www.ukworkshop.co.uk/forums/viewtopic.php?t=22355&highlight=

Use it for a few years, then get your money back :wink:

With a few days left, it is going for £8 + postage more than a new one :roll:

I think my case is made - no work required to make them perform outstandingly good, have the pleasure of using a tool where quality is all that counts during design and manufacture, then sell them for as much as you paid (or more :shock: )

 

[head clansman]

Hi tony

Err sorry your theory don't hold water that formula applies to any type of good quality tools bought and sold on a few yrs later . Seeing prices are constantly increasing. My tool chests are full of tools that i only paid a fraction of the prices there being sold for now if sold now would fetch quite considerable more.

 

[MrJay]

You missed the point. Tony is saying that premium tools aren't at a disadvantage from initial outlay vs depreciation as they hold their value. Their advantage is that they sing straight from the box and don't need endless fettling. Restoring an old plane is nice once in a while, but it's hardly a suitable first project; especially when great quality hand tools are readily available from the shops - that right of passage stuff sounds like folly to me. I'd love to have all that time back that I spent cluelessly trying to flatten plane irons and soles when I first started getting into hand tools.

 

[Digit]

Personally, with a limited budget, I'd spend on good quality sharpening gear, as I said earlier, if you can't sharpen properly what you paid for the plane, chisel, drill bit etc is irrelevant.

Roy.

 

[frugal]

Paul

The LN bronze apron plane is superb and many on here have one and love it. They are not too expensive either

http://www.axminster.co.uk/product-Lie-Nielsen-Nos.-102-and-103-Block-Planes-20370.htm

and even cheaper iron

A very good first plane

Based on this thread and your recomendation I ordered a 102, and out of the box it was taking shavings of 1 thou[1], rather than the 4 thou my Stanlely plane takes (even after fiddling with it and sharpening it). I have only had a little time to play with it, but it does seem to be a wonderful piece of engineering.

[1] A Pair of digital calipers might have accidently fallen into the shopping cart along with the plane and a few other bits. Good job my wife is even more of a gadget junky than I am

 

[Anonymous]

Gald you like it Fruagl - enjoy the gleam you get off the wood and burn the sandpaper :lol: :lol: :wink:

 

[frugal]

Gald you like it Fruagl - enjoy the gleam you get off the wood and burn the sandpaper :lol: :lol: :wink:

Admittedly my wife ended up coming out to the workshop at 11pm to remind me that I had to get up early for work I was too busy rooting through bits of wood to put shiny edges on, and trying to make up little jigs to help with sharpening.

 

[DaveL]

Admittedly my wife ended up coming out to the workshop at 11pm to remind me that I had to get up early for work I was too busy rooting through bits of wood to put shiny edges on, and trying to make up little jigs to help with sharpening.

The Slope TM has you in its grasp, there is no turning back now. :shock: :wink:
Good planes and sharp edges are a joy to use, have fun.