AW106PT - Help needed setting up please (F22568, W583, etc.)

[ivan]

Look at it this way - if they'd checked it properly pre delivery they could stay in the office drinking tea, but .....

 

[motownmartin]

Did you get this sorted Olly, i'm interested in what the problem was :?

 

[OPJ]

I had a reply from Axminster yesterday and they're happy to let me drill the machine without it affecting the warranty or anything.

They also offered to collect the machine from me (at a convenient date, I assume?), repair and return it to me, free of charge. But I'm quite happy lining it up and drilling these holes on my own.

Incidentally, DW, I've found the last couple of days to be fairly mild in the workshop... Although, I think we still have another week or rain and bad weather on the way! :wink:

 

[devonwoody]

Incidentally, DW, I've found the last couple of days to be fairly mild in the workshop... Although, I think we still have another week or rain and bad weather on the way!
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Yeah, so have I. Been out in the workshop, but my mind keeps wandering, thinking of all the timber floating in the Channel.

Should be enough out there to build 50 timber frame houses.

 

[motownmartin]

I had a reply from Axminster yesterday and they're happy to let me drill the machine without it affecting the warranty or anything.

I'm a bit confused :? as to what holes you want to drill would it not be best to let Axminster repair it.
I think I mis-understood the problem you have

 

[Mike.C]

Proshop wrote,

When I altered mine to correct the same fault they said much the same thing, so I was up & running very quickly without having to wait for someone to turn up or send the machine back and I ended up with a very accurate & reliable machine.

It would have been handy if you had said that above. :roll: :wink:

Cheers

Mike

 

[JanneKi]

Hei,

similar machines are in use all over the world - very thorough discussion in an Australian forum with similar machines.

I had one of the copies like these also some time, but the cast iron tables were not straight so I sent it back and got a better one instead.

http://www.woodworkforums.ubeaut.com.au/showthread.php?t=14610&highlight=saga

 

[OPJ]

I had a reply from Axminster yesterday and they're happy to let me drill the machine without it affecting the warranty or anything.

I'm a bit confused :? as to what holes you want to drill would it not be best to let Axminster repair it.
I think I mis-understood the problem you have

Hi Martin, I'll try and explain it as best as I can...

If you look either side of the two black bolts on the hinge-side of the table, you'll see two 6mm pins. These are installed after assembly to ensure the tables can not move out of alignment during transit, etc. Unless they are removed, of course.

I've come to the conclusion, with the help of another member's experience (ProShop) with this machine, that these pins have been drilled in the wrong place, or that the table moved/wasn't set properly when the Chinese (?) drilled it.

So, what I need to do is remove these two pins and redrill the holes once I've correctly aligned the table, before inserting the pins again to lock it all in place. I only got around to having a brief look at this earlier and I'm having a little difficulty (PM sent to ProShop).

I'm trying to re-drill through the existing holes on the outside, meaning I'm basically elongating the holes on the inside. However, as I cannot lock the table securely without shifting the alignment again, I'm finding it moves as I drill the hole.

In typing this reply, however, I'm thinking Pro Shop may have been talking about drilling two NEW holes altogether (awaiting reply).


I hope this gives you a better understanding of what is wrong and what I'm trying to do about it. If it doesn't then... I know what I mean and I feel like I'm finally turning a corner here. :wink: This might also come in handy for someone else later down the line.

 

[motownmartin]

Thanks Olly, I got it now never noticed the pins and thought the problem was the other side.

 

[LarryS.]

Olly,

Last night I was cleaning up my p/t and mind wandered and I undid the adjusting bolts on the outfeed table . Put it all back together and noticed that it has the same problem as your table had i.e. from above blade doesn't look in line with the table edge. I don't know if its always been the same but have adjusted the table to make sure its level with the blade which I think should be ok.

So did you manage to fix yours ? Did you need to fix it ? How did you fix it if you did ?

 

[Pete Howlett]

Why would you give up the opportunity for them to repair it? Blimey mate, you a masochist or something....

 

[bjm]

Maybe I'm missing something here? Is there a discrepancy in the height of either side of the outfeed table relative to the cutter block? If there isn't, whether the table is parallel or not is irrelevant - mine isn't but that's down to the casting not being square - not an issue.

Brian

 

[LarryS.]

Maybe I'm missing something here? Is there a discrepancy in the height of either side of the outfeed table relative to the cutter block? If there isn't, whether the table is parallel or not is irrelevant - mine isn't but that's down to the casting not being square - not an issue.

Brian

thats what i was thinking, but saw this thread and wondered if it would cause any issues, very glad to hear it won't

 

[OPJ]

First of all, I'd like to point out that this thread is months old! Secondly, I did arrange with Axminster for the collection and 'repair' of this machine - they basically had to re-drill some holes in the edge of the cast iron tables to re-position the roll pins (I tried doing it myself but, I almost knackered my 9.6v drill! :wink

Paul, if you check with a straightedge to see that the outfeed table is parallel to the knives then it should be fine. Ideally, you want the knives to be a fraction higher, not perfectly flush. You can then run your straightedge across both tables - adjusting only the infeed side, if necessary.

I think that, when looking from above the machine, the edge of my tables aren't perfectly parallel to the cutter block - but, this doesn't matter. Actually, I know this is true because when I don't set my knives properly :roll: they only ever catch on one side of the table.

You may already know this but, the correct method for setting the outfeed table in relation to the knives it to take a block of wood and mark two lines 3mm apart. You then need to rotate the cutter block carefully by hand to see that it moves the block by 3mm evenly across the width of the machine.

With a planer/thicknesser machine, ALWAYS check first to see that the knives are set correctly in the cutter block. :wink:

 

[Pete Howlett]

Forgive me for pointing it out Olly but you did have a go yourself before you eventually called out the cavalry Still, glad you got it fixed and glad I don't have a whole bunch of large machines to contend with...