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Proxxon data plate. I can sort of struggle through bits but technical words are difficult.

Any native German speakers who can give a proper English translation please?

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Fohren:= pine, type of coniferous tree

Bohrer:= auger, drill, wimble, tool for drilling holes, any of several power tools used to hollow out or furrow into a material

Fraser:= milling cutter

and so on
 
I also have this piece of kit. Translation below
Bohrer = drilling
Fraser = milling
Holz weich = softwood
Holz hart = hardwood
Kunststoff ABS = Plastic ABS
Kunststoff PC = Plastic PC
Stahl= steel
Guss = cast
Messing = brass

It is a nice bit of kit but the downside of this little machine is that it really is for model making, clock repairs etc. and as such you can only run it for about 20 minutes before the thermal cut out trips. Apart from that ts great. Hope this helps.

Gerard
 
Late to the party, only just seen this post, sorry.

As a Brit living in Switzerland (and with a Swiss wife) German is my 2nd language, used daily, so perhaps this can illuminate the previous posts a little more.

Basically the previous posters have got it right but a couple of clarifications:

1. Fohren (as someone said, there's an umlaut over the O so it should be written FOEHREN on a keyboard such as English, without umlauts) - this is simply the name of the place where it's made and shouldn't be translated (any more than one should try to translate, say, Manchester into German). The clue is in the "D-54343" - this is the postcode and in most of mainland Europe the postcode is placed before the name of the town. The "D" means Germany ("F" is for France, "B" is for Belgium, etc, etc).

2. The tool in question is listed on the Proxxon site as a "complete integrated workcentre" capable of both drilling/boring & milling/routing. It's electronically controlled between 900 & 6,000 rpm. It runs on 40V transformer and has collet chucks to handle tools & drills with 2.35 to 3.0; 3.2 to 4.0; 4.0 to 5.0; and 6.0 mm diameter shanks. There's the clue(s), so although as someone pointed out "Bohren" could mean auger, in this case is simply means drilling (the machine can be used for both drilling and milling/routing). And there's the 2nd clue, the dataplate is simply showing speed ranges when either drilling (LH column on plate) or milling/routing (RH column). The different speeds are Proxxon's suggestions according to the material being worked and the shank diameter of the tool being used.

3. The lists of materials already provided are quite correct, the only thing I would add is that in normal German engineering usage "Guss" only means cast iron (as somone has said, the word simply means cast, but funnily enough I've never heard, say, cast aluminium or cast brass referred to as "Guss" - only cast iron. The above 2 examples are always referred to in German as "Alu Guss" or "Messing Guss" respectively. Don't ask me why, but 'tis so.

4. As someone has already said I think, this is not a "normal size" dril/mill machine. I don't have this machine but a few other Proxxon bits and pieces and although looking somewhat "toy like", other Proxxon kit suggests to me that if someone needs highly accurate drilling and milling (or routing) on small bits and pieces, such as for clocks or small models for example, then this machine would be a very good buy - though no doubt rather expensive. From the website I also note that the table for X and Y axis movements is a separate purchase (ref KT 150, made of "Alu Druckguss" - i.e. pressure die cast aluminum).

HTH

Krgds
AES
 
Thanks for all that, illuminating!.

I've only briefly used this machine but can confirm it is super accurate and amazingly quiet. I had no problems cutting 5mm slots in 3mm brass sheet. I'll put some photos up in a while when I've got something completed. It is a hefty piece of kit for its size and seems very well built. I already had a small xy table, vice/clamps and converted an existing heavyweight Wolf drill stand. It all seems to have worked out quite well and is accurate.

The drill/mill only is listed at about £180 through UK suppliers (Axminster etc.) but I managed to get it for a total of about £118 (including postage) from Voelkner http://www.voelkner.de/search/fact-search.html?keywords=proxxon&x=0&y=0 in Germany. It only took 3 days to deliver.
 
Hullo again RogerP.

Glad the info was of some use, if you have any more Qs re the German, just post here (or send me a PM if you prefer). I'm certainly NOT a German scholar but using it daily does help (even the "Swiss mangled" version of high German that we use here)! And my wife's pretty good on technical terms too, though I have had to resort to specialist dictionaries for some aviation terms (my work area). But one of the biggest stumbling blocks with German, especially in the technical area, is the German's great propensity to compound several single words together up in to a new "single" noun. This often ends up providing you with an unprounceable jumble at first sight. Just one example (a true one) - "Heckkonusklinker" = tail cone latch (it's an aviation term). And the favourite one of most kids here - "The steam ship captain's (uniform) cap" = Dampfshiffskapitanmutze (it is, 'onest injuns).

I'm pleased you're finding the machine good, Proxxon do have a good rep and I'm very pleased with one of my 12v "mini" drills, and it's variable transformer, both of which are Proxxon. Better than my Dremel and Minicraft tools in overall quality and reliability. And if you see the British Woodworking mag you'll have seen that the editor, Nick Gibbs, is using a Proxxon tablesaw in his new workshop. Again I haven't seen the thing but apparently it's just like a "real" tablesaw but on a reduced-size scale. Anyway ......

What are you using your machine for BTW? Quite a few people "over here" use Proxxon if they're doing small stuff and want quality and precision. But it's generally not cheap stuff (if not exactly expensive - I guess that's a judgement that depends on one's personal "values"). But I was very surprised at the low price you paid for your machine. And thanks for that link too, a dealer that I haven't come across before, but now book marked in my list of interesting sites.

All the best
AES
 
Aside from anything else aspects which have impressed me are its quietness, high torque even at the lowest speeds and almost zero vibration. I was concerned that It is rated at only 10 minutes continuous use but I feel that's very conservative. 45 minutes or so playing with is yesterday and the cut-out never functioned. Perhaps just short pauses is sufficient to keep it within the temperature limit. Anyway for my use I doubt I'd run it continuously for more than 5-10 minutes at a time

I'll use it for making many small items for clocks and small hand tools. Bits like this ..
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(not my photo - linked from eBay) but gives you an idea of the sort of stuff..

I wasn't aware that Nick Gibbs of British Woodworking Magazine is using a Proxxon table saw. I wonder what he needs something that small for?

Cheers.
Roger
 

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