Adult crib

[NotAWoodWorker]

No negative comments please.

The picture are off the internet of someone selling this for £625 which is to much for me to purchase and it's a double and I need a single.

Would a total novice like me be able to build this cheaper at home? (single crib).
Is there a better way to build this?
What tools would I need?

It looks like the CLS timber from WIckes has been used on it.
38 x 63 x 2.4m Going across each side
38 x 63 x 1.5m for the 4 posts
18 mm dowels
Held together with bed screws


I've problems sleeping.

I've been to doctors many many times, I was on 4 - 5 medications daily which over the years I've gone down to one daily now so go me. My medication is always on repeat prescription for 1 year at a time.

The doctors say as long as I'm not doing anything dangerous It's fine.

I never venture out of my property at night that I know of. I always seem to do things in my own flat.

Thank you people for making me explain my problems on the forums. Really appreciate the help there. #-o (hammer) I'm not going to be explaining anymore.

 

[thetyreman]

this has got to be a wind up :lol:

 

[lurker]

There is a fair amount of wood in that, certainly better stuff than sold by wickes or other sheds.

If you factor in having to buy at least some new tools I doubt you could do it much cheaper.

 

[Deadeye]

Hi

If you're simply wanting to stop yourself falling out of bed, then you can buy railing attachments that slot under the mattress. These are much cheaper and you could put one each side to achieve the same effect.

For example: https://www.safetots.co.uk/safetots-woo ... gLE2fD_BwE

 

[NotAWoodWorker]

this has got to be a wind up :lol:

No it's not a wind up.

 

[NotAWoodWorker]

There is a fair amount of wood in that, certainly better stuff than sold by wickes or other sheds.

If you factor in having to buy at least some new tools I doubt you could do it much cheaper.

I can lend I think it's a router and sliding miter saw table. I don't have a drill press or what ever that is.

 

[NotAWoodWorker]

Hi

If you're simply wanting to stop yourself falling out of bed, then you can buy railing attachments that slot under the mattress. These are much cheaper and you could put one each side to achieve the same effect.

For example: https://www.safetots.co.uk/safetots-woo ... gLE2fD_BwE

I don't think that is going to cut it.

 

[AndyT]

Assuming that you have decent diy skills, a methodical approach and plenty of space, I reckon that design could be copied quite easily.
If you make it all from stock sized softwood it's just measuring, cutting to length and screwing together. The ends are frames of square edged wood, drilled for dowels, assembled, then screwed to the legs. As you say, the long sides will have bed bolts in the ends and probably some short dowels to align them and take some of the load.
Not sure how they've done the drop side but assuming bigger holes to slide along a dowel somehow and a clip to hold up.

Tools needed:

Tape measure

Try square and knife

Saw (could even be a handsaw, many people would prefer a power saw, I'll leave that for others to advise).

Electric drill or drill/driver with a bit to match the dowels and probably another to suit the bolts.

Screwdriver if not using the drill.

Some way of sanding things smooth - again, hand or power as preferred.

You may want to make some sort of jig to help space the holes evenly, but it's not essential.

So pretty basic stuff.

The materials won't be cheap though.

 

[thetyreman]

this has got to be a wind up :lol:

No it's not a wind up.

fair enough, why isn't an ordinary bed ok? without the bars around the edges.

 

[NotAWoodWorker]

I'll tell you about the problem I'm having.

I go to sleep at night and wake up in the morning with things different in my property or eating food.

I keep getting up, eating 2 chocolate bars making a drink then going back to bed.

During the night, when am suppose to be asleep, I'm moving things around my property or hiding my stuff in stupid places.

I woke up the other night in the morning realising that I had gone to my front door, found the spare key, put the key in the lock, turned it fully and left it in the lock.

I'm suffering so much from sleep walking and night terrors.

It's been going on for so many years that nearly every day I'm so tired and fatigued from the lack of proper sleep.

I once rang someone at 3 am in the morning, asked them a question and then went back to sleep. They was not happy at all.


This morning, I woke up and I had hidden all my clothes underneath my bed Why did I hide them under my bed? I don't know why apparently the me that is asleep thought it's cool.

 

[Lons]

Hi

If you're simply wanting to stop yourself falling out of bed, then you can buy railing attachments that slot under the mattress. These are much cheaper and you could put one each side to achieve the same effect.

For example: https://www.safetots.co.uk/safetots-woo ... gLE2fD_BwE

I don't think that is going to cut it.

Why do you think not?
No judgements intended or implied just a genuine question trying to understand why a full blown crib is essential

Sorry, have just seen your explanation, not a nice thing to endure.

Wouldn't you just climb out of a crib though considering the other stuff you do?

 

[Chris152]

Could the head and foot be solid? Maybe the sides toward the foot, too? It'd reduce the amount of tricky dowel fitting.

Reading your last post, if you can do all that I wonder if opening the side of the bed would be pretty easy, too (and hence not solving the problem?)?

 

[NotAWoodWorker]

Just above your post. I wrote something about the problem I'm having.

Just thought of another. I once woke up in the morning. I had barricaded the living room door closed with a coffee table and some other stuff.
I don't know why, just seems my body has other ideas whilst I'm asleep

 

[Phil Pascoe]

I suspect you're approaching the problem from the wrong end - I doubt it's a woodworking forum you need to visit for advice. Good luck.

 

[Trevanion]

Wow, that really is a seriously bad case of sleepwalking. Are you sure that 'asleep you' isn't going to smart enough to undo the latches and escape? Unless you're having someone else padlock it of course.

It might be an obvious question but have you seen a doctor that specialises in sleep disorders?

 

[NotAWoodWorker]

I suspect you're approaching the problem from the wrong end - I doubt it's a woodworking forum you need to visit for advice. Good luck.

Been to doctors. Been on medication on and off for years. That helps so much. I did how ever start off on 4 or 5 medications and now down to just one daily. Go me =D>

 

[NotAWoodWorker]

Assuming that you have decent diy skills, a methodical approach and plenty of space, I reckon that design could be copied quite easily.
If you make it all from stock sized softwood it's just measuring, cutting to length and screwing together. The ends are frames of square edged wood, drilled for dowels, assembled, then screwed to the legs. As you say, the long sides will have bed bolts in the ends and probably some short dowels to align them and take some of the load.
Not sure how they've done the drop side but assuming bigger holes to slide along a dowel somehow and a clip to hold up.

Tools needed:

Tape measure

Try square and knife

Saw (could even be a handsaw, many people would prefer a power saw, I'll leave that for others to advise).

Electric drill or drill/driver with a bit to match the dowels and probably another to suit the bolts.

Screwdriver if not using the drill.

Some way of sanding things smooth - again, hand or power as preferred.

You may want to make some sort of jig to help space the holes evenly, but it's not essential.

So pretty basic stuff.

The materials won't be cheap though.

This is info I need. Thanks.

 

[Bm101]

Fair play for your honesty. While it shouldn't be an issue to address this sadly it probably is. I question one thing, if you can get in it while awake I would guess you can get out of it in your semi awake state.
Apparently I was off out the flat a few years back in the middle of the night. That's 2 locked doors I went and got the keys for from the other end of the flat. The Mrs woke up and found me sitting at a pub bench in my birthday suit at my local 5 doors away quite happy. It's very very occasional for me. Exhausted and having a drink play a part.
If you don't mind me saying I'd be looking at maybe some sort of support. Just having someone neutral to talk to can really help sometimes.
Not something I've ever done but I probably would have benefitted several times. Who knows. My brother had worked himself into a tight space over the years. Nothing mad. Just the usual. He's benefitted hugely. He's started painting ffs. And it turns out he bleeding mustard at painting birds! Just wtf. And he is finding himself again. He wasn't having a 'breakdown'. And he wasn't close to any danger point of any type. Just a working dad, kids, pressure etc etc
Why not have a chat with your Gp and see if they can recommend a way forward. In the meantime Hop pillows might help?
Good luck. Can't imagine how hard it is. The bafflement in the morning must be very disconcerting.
All the best.
Chris

 

[MikeG.]

You seem to be capable of some quite complex actions whilst "asleep". You also have to be able to get out of your crib in the morning. That sets you a fairly difficult design problem.

I can't see how you can lock yourself into something when you go to bed in such a way that you can get yourself out of it in the morning but can't get yourself out of it in the middle of the night.....other than with some highly dangerous time-release system, pre-programmed before you go to sleep. How do you plan to get around this contradiction?

 

[Phil Pascoe]

As Andy said. If you go ahead, plan it well - the time taken planning it, marking it out and making jigs will be made up in the working. If you do not do this you will spend more time trying to correct mistakes than actually getting on with it. You can devise a jig that spaces a hole from the one before it - just ensure you work from the same end of every piece so that if there is an error it still matches top to bottom. Bulk packs of 15/16th broomsticks might be the cheapest way of buy 4' dowels, which would give you 2' lengths. They may distort a bit, but it depends how much you wish to spend.