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[tbowden]

Hi all, hopefully some of you will be able to help me, i'm pretty new to wood work and have been 'making do' with my dad's old stuff which is not quite made for the job and or old and lets face it rubbish! I have recently decided to splash out on my own stuff, i thought i'd start with the following:-

A tenon saw, a set of chisels and a Jack plane.

I've got £125 to spend, any suggestions?

Cheers,

Tom

 

[Russell]

First what is your Dads old rubbish it may just need a bit of TLC and a tune up.

 

[woodbloke]

Tom - if you let us know exactly the sort of kit you're using at the mo' we'll be in a much better position to let you know if it's worth tuning/fettling or better to buy your own...a dangerous step to take towards the 'Slope', from which there is no known cure - Rob

 

[bugbear]

Tom - if you let us know exactly the sort of kit you're using at the mo' we'll be in a much better position to let you know if it's worth tuning/fettling or better to buy your own...a dangerous step to take towards the 'Slope', from which there is no known cure - Rob

Hmm. In any case without a good sharpening set up, and the knowledge to use it, all (edge) tools are useless.

BugBear

 

[tbowden]

When i say old rubbish, i mean, one draper chisesl (blunt), one draper block plane and an old B&Q tenon saw! when i say old, what i mean is, dad hasn't ever done any woodwork because he enjoys it, he's only ever bought things as and when, so he's got the cheapest stuff he could buy, stuff that would last the one job, but not really stand the test of time, so.... new stuff suggestions? i'm very much looking forward to getting stuck in with some decent kit!

Cheers.

T

 

[Racers]

Hi,
I'm sure I could sort you out with a secondhand plane or 2, I seem to have collected one or two.

I have a stanley 5 1/2 that needs its tune up finishing the sole needs some more work, or I have several 4s and 5s both Stanley and Record already to go.

Pete

 

[bugbear]

Hi,
I'm sure I could sort you out with a secondhand plane or 2, I seem to have collected one or two.

To collect one plane is unfortunate, to collect that many is careless (*) !

BugBear

(*) with apols to Wilde

 

[Racers]

Hi, Bugbear

It's not an up to date photo :shock:

I haven't "collected" them I have "saved" them :wink:

Pete

 

[tnimble]

Hi,
I'm sure I could sort you out with a secondhand plane or 2, I seem to have collected one or two.

Pete

Hmm that sight looks awfully familiar somehow (instead of bench planes could also be spokes, combination, .... )

 

[Racers]

Hi. tnimbe

Thats only the bench planes I have to clear the bench to get the other ones on.

Pete

 

[tnimble]

With £125 to spend I could recommand second hand planes from a flee market of ebay go for the real old (pre 1940) but still good locking Stanley or Record planes.

On chisels I'm not that familiar with older brands that are good. When buying new I would recommend Pfeil, Sorby, Ashley Iles and Lee Nielsen (or at least Bahco if going for a real cheap DIY kinda tool)

For saw I find that with Japanese pull saws you can get an extremely good saw for a very low price.

 

[bugbear]

Hi,
I'm sure I could sort you out with a secondhand plane or 2, I seem to have collected one or two.

Pete

Hmm that sight looks awfully familiar somehow (instead of bench planes could also be spokes, combination, .... )

(ought to be a single superwide photo, but imagebucket won't let me)

BugBear

 

[MrJay]

Buying tools is a minefield, more so if you're starting out and on a budget.

1. You need layout tools, at the very least a decent square. You want to be prepared to spend a bit on the square; either a good engineering square or tri-square will get you started. Get bugbear (or was it woodbloke?) to show you how to make a marking gauge or ten. Marking knives, straight edges and winding sticks are also easily made.

2. You need to be able to sharpen stuff. I've tried various methods and reckon water stones to be cost effective. You'll be needing various grades of stone to cater for coarse to very very sharp. You'll also need a method for flattening your stones.

3. Regarding bench chisels, you're on your own mate. Good second hand chisels are rare as very rare things. Look for real oldies from Sheffield makes at car boot fares and such - take your square and examine the flatness of the face of the chisel (the face being the bottom edge) discard anything more than a little out of flat, otherwise you'll be flattening them on a stone for weeks and weeks. Good new chisels are slightly less rare but very expensive.

4. Happily, old wooden jack and smoothing planes can be had for very little. Again take your square so you can check for flatness of sole. It's much easier to flatten a woodie sole than a metal plane, but you don't want anything too far gone. A decent woodie will offer more bang for buck than anything you'll find from Stanley or Record (accepting that Stanleys and Records can be tuned to give shiny performance.)

5. Very Decent Tenon saws are relatively common on the ebay for a few pounds. Decent sharp ones less so, you'll need a saw-file, saw-set, some kind of saw holding vice and some know-how to make it sing.

6. Some kind of rock solid bench is a must for holding your work.

 

[Racers]

Hi, Bugbear

Nice scribing work on the bench and shelves, fits that curved wall a treat. :wink:

Couple views of my garage

its been tidier.


Pete

 

[Newbie_Neil]

Hi Pete

Thank you for making my day. I'm amazed, but I think my garage/workshop is marginally tidier than yours.

Cheers,
Neil

 

[mudman]

Blimey Bugbear, that's helluva lot of birdseed you've got there. :wink:

 

[bugbear]

Blimey Bugbear, that's helluva lot of birdseed you've got there. :wink:

Yep, 20 Kg, for 7.99 and the birds really love it. I'm not sure I'm saving money over the local pet shop, since the consumption has gone up. However, since the point is to please and attract birds, I guess that's OK.

http://www.charnwood-milling.co.uk/wildbird.htm

BugBear

 

[Racers]

Hi, tbowden

How about my offer? fancy a second-hand tuned plane? I have a nice early Record No5 with a rosewood front knob its the 11th from the right, or a nice No4? they will be very cheap, plus postage I'm afraid to say.

Pete