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NikNak

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Hi all.... just sold 2 Makita drills to my neighbour yesterday, and am looking to buy myself a small/powerful type drill.

I'm looking at the 10.8v ranges that are now being sold.... e.g. Makita, Metabo, DeWalt etc

I see some makes do them as a 'kit' i.e. a drill & an impact driver.

Has anyone / can anyone give any thoughts/advice/recommendations to these types of drill please..??


Cheers all.....


Nick
 
Nick

I've just stuck a brand new set in the for sale section if you're interested PM me.

Chris

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Hi Chris

Yes i've already seen you item, and it is one of the models i'm considering actually.

Was just hoping to get a bit more feedback on makes/models etc
 
NikNak":2g74l7bh said:
Hi Chris

Yes i've already seen you item, and it is one of the models i'm considering actually.

Was just hoping to get a bit more feedback on makes/models etc
I know a few people who have them and use them a lot and are happy with them, surprisingly powerful for their size. I'm selling as I already own festool drills that I'm happy with. I got this set on Friday because I spent £4000 in benchmarx.

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Jolly useful, I find mine (Bosch).

I'd be surprised if there's a lot to choose between the main manufacturers, but...

... I've looked at the Makita set like the ones in the For Sale section (a friend has them). They feel a bit heavier than the Bosch stuff and there's nothing like the play in the chuck of the drill/driver that mine has. That said, I don't have a problem with mine for accuracy, although to begin with I didn't like it. I get the feeling the Makita ones are better made.

I find the impact driver very useful on big, repetitive jobs, and great with a socket set for assembly/disassembly work, but it's usually too powerful and with too little control for delicate screwdriving. On studwork, floorboards, etc. it is very fast, and the batteries last longer in it than in the drill (on the same job).

I have a cordless multi-tool, using the same batteries. It is indispensible for DIY work - plumbing, sanding, socket boxes, etc.

Any "multi-" anything must be a compromise. On mine it's battery life (can be short) and dust extraction when sanding (non-existent). If you operate with a hoover in close attendance, the sanding pads last for ages (and it works very well). Without religously stopping and cleaning the pad and surface frequently, the pads clog fast and scratch. I think the other trick with them is to use the slowest motor speed you can get away with. That seems to give acceptable battery life. I really like it being cordless though - much better than something corded.

The battery systems are almost identical from a wide range of "manufacturers". I suspect they come from the same place(s) as very few companies make the cells used and their plants are huge. So the life you get will probably depend on how powerful the individual tool needs to be. I have three packs, and they're just beginning to drop off in performance after about six years. That's quite a bit longer than the expected life of the cells (they age and die even if lightly used). So in that sense I'm pleased, but not looking forward to having to replace them!

Makita have a big advantage in that there are third-party batteries available for them, which will save you quite a lot of money. I haven't yet seen any for Bosch (although I keep looking!). It ought to be possible to swap the outer plastics over between Makita and Bosch batteries, as the connections to them appear to be identical, but I haven't had the nerve to attempt it yet (and I can't work out how to get the Bosch covers off, although they are obviously clipped on!).

Two tips - number your batteries (I use paint blobs). That way you know which one you're using, and which needs charge, etc. The chances are one battery will die before the others (there is quite a lot of variability), and you'll know which. Also, don't let them stay flat for any length of time. Even though there are protective cutouts built into the tools (for when the batteries are almost flat), it still does them no good to discharge them that far and then leave them. Keep the charger handy, and recharge as soon as the battery gets to one bar, ideally before it's cut out.

Hope that's useful.

E.
 
I had the Makita set, they were okay but for personal reasons I sold them on. I found they lacked the oomph of my Ryobi models but then they are bigger, (and heavier!) 18v models. I soon missed the compactness of the Makita though and so I started looking into potential replacements. I bought a Festool CXS which was some 70% dearer for one tool than the Makita set but by Christ it's a great drill. It's fantastic for use in confined spaces and although I thought the right angle attachment was a bit gimmicky it does actually work rather well and I've been glad of the facility several times already. It even drills into masonry that previously I'd have turned to a mains powered Dewalt SDS for. It has soon become my go to drill and the Centrotec chuck makes quick changes of bits truly quick. And cherry on top, the batteries charge quickly, hold a charge well and go on longer than a duracell bunny. Compared to the Makita set, it seemed a lot of money for a single, relatively small drill but so far it's ease of use and power has been worth every penny.
 
Festool CXS is great - wouldn't be without mine - but kind of a one-trick pony right now. I bought Bosch 10.8v a while back as they had more tools that ran on the same batteries than Makita, and that range hasn't reduced over time - I've just picked up an excellent work light, for example.

But if I was starting again, I'd look seriously at the Milwaukee M12 Fuel range - they market it as 12v but it's 10.8 in practise - as they are very powerful; there are comparison videos on YouTube between the Milwaukee M12 Fuel combi drill and another brand (may have been the Bosch) and it had a *lot* more grunt. Lots of accessories, too.

@ Eric TV. I've never used them, but there are plenty of third-party batteries for Bosch 10.8v on eBay, e.g. these, or this. Might be worth a punt?
 
The Metabo BS 10.8v ones will accept Festool FastFix heads, just in case the OP (or anyone else interested) already happened to have some of the Festool ones and just wanted a cheap companion drill.
 
petermillard":323o69lb said:
... I've never used them, but there are plenty of third-party batteries for Bosch 10.8v on eBay, e.g. these, or this. Might be worth a punt?

Thanks Peter - those are 1/3 the price of new Bosch ones, so they can afford not to be quite as good!

Will definitely investigate further.

E.
 
I've had the 10.8v Makita set for a couple of years and been very pleased with them. I like the light weight especially if I am doing decking all day or need to use a drill up a ladder. The batteries suddenly go from decent power to needing recharging which takes about 45 minutes. If I am drilling a lot of brickwork for plugs I tend to go back to the 18v. Also found the keyless chuck on the drill needs to be tightened hard on the drill bit else they are apt to fall out and you spend ages hunting for drill bits in the sawdust. :D

Regards Keith
 
I've got the bosch 10.8v set and really like it. Light and compact, its ideal in the workshop and around the house. The driver is brilliant, I find myself using it all the time. If I'm doing anything that needs some proper oomph I'll use my 18v makita set but 99% of the time I use the bosch.
 
I have the same Makita 10.8V set which Chris is selling in the F/S section and they have been brilliant over 2-3 years. Agree with other posters' comments wrt battery life, but so small and lighweight and batteries charge pretty quickly. I also have a newer Makita 18V drill / impact driver set, much better for roaring in 100 x 6 screws into 4x2 all day long, but far heavier tools. Horses for courses.

Recommend the Makita 10.8V any day for lighter use. (Oh, and BTW SWMBO might be after the aluminium case for her travelling make-up kit - they seem to like them!)

Cheers

Andrew :)
 
Thanks for the replies so far.... i too have a 'monster' Makita for use on BIG JOBS..... 3 speed, 70Nm etc etc (hammer) so this is for around the house or 'little jobs' :)

I think i've narrowed my choice down to....

http://www.toolstop.co.uk/makita-lct204 ... ite-p72244

or

http://www.toolstop.co.uk/makita-clx201 ... rep-p72546

or

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/METABO-COMBOS ... SwgApW-9~m

(other sites/sellers are available.... :lol: )

Unfortunately tho i cant seem to find anywhere that seems to have these things on display that you can also 'play' with too :cry:

Never owned a Metabo but have used them, and apart from online i cant seem to find anywhere local that sells them. Can anyone help..?

Cheers so far


Nick
 
Haven't used any of the above, so take this FWIW... The second Makita (CLX) come with 2.0Ah batteries, and according to the link replaces the top one (LCT); top one also has 'only' 1.3Ah batteries, and is an older model. If you're happy with the drill shape, the newer one with 2.0Ah batteries is the better buy for an extra tenner, IMHO.

Haven't used a Metabo since my original "PowerMaxx" 4.8v cordless driver way back when, but I'm sure someone will chip in.

And as an aside, the third-party batteries for Bosch 10.8v (linked to in my post above) arrived today, very well packaged and seem to be working fine. Casings are slightly rougher than the Bosch originals I have - or maybe they're just newer - but all three batteries work in all the Bosch stuff I have, and all arrived fully charged, which is a nice touch, wether by accident or design. So, for a tenner apiece, delivered, I'd say well worth a punt.

Cheers, Peter
 
I have the Dewalt 10.8v set (drill/drive + impact) and they are excellent.

What I liked with the Dewalts over others I tried was the triggers - they have a really nice fine grain control and feel to them. They are also braked, so they stop rapidly. They seem to have decent speed/torque control built in as well as they can maintain rotation speed despite varying force.

The official refurb units that you can pick up on eBay are basically new.

If I was buying again, I would keep one eye on the rest of the battery tool range of that manufacturer though, as it is pain to have multiple chargers and batteries for different tools.

Looks like an excellent deal on that 14v Makita BTW...
 
NikNak":17jiyk90 said:
and the one i chose was.......

this one.... http://www.lawson-his.co.uk/makita-clx2 ... -2-x-2-0ah

Hammer drill, impact driver, 2x 2.0Ah Li-ion batts, charger, case, cuddly toy (homer)

thanks for all your input and advice..... :)


Nick
Looks like the newer Makita setup with the new systainer case - very nice. They look more substantial than the old white/black 10.8v Makitas..


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