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    Keir Starmer

    according to this report, "Legal identity and civil documentation in Afghanistan": millions arent able to obtain a Tazkira "Consequently, many Afghans have been unable to acquire legal identity documentation for multiple generations" So Im not sure you can reliably say everybody over age 12...
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    Keir Starmer

    I am surprised then that you did not know that the UK have made the resettlement schemes for Afghanis virtually impossible and so they have had to make there way to the UK by small boats Perhaps you know that there were quite a number of Afghanis that worked with the UK forces have needed to...
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    Keir Starmer

    Very few people escape from oppressive regimes like North Korea we are talking about places of war or persecution. most of the people arriving in small boats are from: Syria Eritrea Afghanistan Iran Iraq Yemen Do you have any evidence to show those places require "forms of ID to be carried...
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    Keir Starmer

    may I ask what criteria made you decide they "do not resemble these patients at all"? Im not sure I follow your point that "most are coming from countries that dont seem to offer an immediate threat to life" the data shows the majority have originated from Syria, Eritrea, Afghanistan, Iran...
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    Keir Starmer

    how do you know they had them in France?
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    Keir Starmer

    So when he says: it is mostly men that take the journey because it is too arduous and dangerous for women, children and the elderly............you consider that to be "parroted unfact based opinions" So are you saying you dont believe that: women, children and elderly would find such a journey...
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    Keir Starmer

    Are you surprised that that people fleeing war or persecution have no documents? I mean how easy do you think it will be for an Afghanistan person to pop into their Taliban run govt department and say "hey Id like to escape from your oppressive regime, would you mind terribly giving me a passport?"
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    Keir Starmer

    they arrive on a beach on South coast of England and are met by the Coast Guard and their first words are "I would like to apply for asylum" So yes they are technically illegal for about 5 minutes on British soil* *of course the wonderful Conservative government ignored international refugee...
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    Keir Starmer

    False argument the UK has a Ukrainian visa scheme set up, so people who were fleeing Putins bombs in Ukraine had a safe route here the UK has no visa scheme for Syrians, so those Syrians fleeing Putins bombs in Syria had to pay people smugglers and cross the water.
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    Keir Starmer

    migration watch is a Conservative propaganda site which contains misleading data. Its president is President is Lord Green of Deddington, a Tory peer https://workpermit.com/news/migration-watch-uk-criticised-misleading-uk-immigration-reports-20160629 migration observatory is a more impartial...
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    Keir Starmer

    this is a commonly used appeal to extremes fallacy used in this debate: "you would just welcome them all" Sadly when reasonable people want to debate the subject based on fact, evidence and data this is the response they get. how can you set a limit when the the number of people being...
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    Keir Starmer

    Thank you for your reply. Unfortunately you have not made any counter argument to A) the comparison I made with Ukraine, or B) the previous 4 points I made. Your post makes repeated mention of the word “fact”, but you haven’t actually stated a single fact. Your argument seems to be that...
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    Keir Starmer

    the Ukrainian pattern is men have stayed behind to fight with a supportive democratic government who has support of the West the Syrian pattern is men have been continuously persecuted and caught in a war where the leader is killing its people I might politely suggest your "commonsensense"...
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    Keir Starmer

    I hate to say this but you accuse British politicians of "doing nothing constructive or effective", whilst you yourself have offered suggestions that are not realistic at all Are you sure you want to put these forward as real world ideas: asylum claims to be made on line before arrival with...
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    Keir Starmer

    thank you for your reply. There are 4 main reasons why its mostly males: 1) "Professor Sigona added that "the journey to Europe is dangerous and expensive, and raising enough money for all members to seek protection abroad is difficult, so often men are sent abroad first to secure an income to...
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    Keir Starmer

    the 10 million figure is just the total number people registered as foreign born noted on the 2021/2022 census so that covers everybody from birth to death.........so the figures you are talking about mightve come here 70 years ago By the way, if they have increased the population by 10...
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    Keir Starmer

    So this is what we are saying to France: "please can you stop all people leaving in small boats from leaving France, we want you to have them all so we dont have to take any" I think you can see why they arent going for it...........if it was the other way around would you be wanting to stop...
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    I never thought that I'd say this but ...

    I would politely suggest it is a complete misrepresentation…..and I am sure you know this. This meme is frequently posted on Twitter, it has nothing to add in any meaningful debate The USA has been the worlds peacekeeper since WW2 so it’s been involved in many conflicts…..it does not mean it...
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    Keir Starmer

    Process them quickly, those that attain asylum can join the economy and work. People seem to think these people are goat herders, but many are professionals with healthcare, engineering, IT skills
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    Keir Starmer

    If I understand you correctly you are using the argument that those coming from safe countries are “abusing the system” Let’s explore the facts: these are people who have travelled mostly from the North coast of Africa or Middle East and into Southern Europe. These people will disperse across...
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