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I've told you. There was a pandemic in April. We are talking about the continued extension of the same narrative and the damage it is doing

You are not capable of looking at this issue in the round. You have covid tinted spectacles on which makes it difficult for you to understand that there is another side of harm being done. I expect you are comfortably retired

No the first wave was the invasion but it came to us at a time of year when respiratory issues were high. Where it got to other countries later then thought they had beaten it (slovakia I think) but their first wave just came in the autumn even though endemic in the summer. It became seasonal...

I think the disruption and hysteria of lockdown and its after effects is going to be way worse than if we had kept normal society functioning with the least anxiety, but I think you are more Covid tunnel visioner than able to look at the bigger picture. Remember we only locked down a few weeks...

We will probably see when the dust settles that most countries handled it similarly because as a virus its tricky to suppress once endemic. You can get excited about daily death tolls etc but they don't really mean anything statistically the infection curves aren't radically out of kilter one...

Covid was all over the continent way before then

It is definitely seasonal. Its why we had much reduced summer deaths in the UK and all of Europe Italy had a peak in Bergamo area, it didn't have it everywhere else. There are factors that led Bergamo area to have such a profound spike. Wales locked down in late October it did no difference.

I would very rarely by a tool off amazon. They are normally too dear. Easily beaten by looking for the item you want on google shopping page and then spending a bit more time looking through the next 6 pages to see if you have missed anyone

Well if he did he would find he would have been culpable as well

It arrived in a NZ summer which was a benefit. They will have more covid deaths in due course, vaccine or not

You are one of many who have a military fetish. We had it with the Nightingales too. But anyway if this is a pandemic why are the nightingales shut and no Army nurses manning them before? If this was a genuine pandemic we would have recruited student nurses into the Nightingales etc. It was a...

You mean you don't like the figures I quoted. Furthermore the non covid excess deaths I quoted were not in hospital they were at home. So no decisions about icu were made.

He wasn't advocating mass deaths. But I'm pointing out to you that lockdown has not come without other non covid deaths either (30k excess non covid deaths for a start). Everyone does not have a "right" to not die of covid, its just ridiculous statement.

I have read that book before. I never mentioned the local community.

Not befuddled at all. I'm saying that land with planning gets a massive uplift in value. You can have two fields in a village one worth £1000000 acre and another worth £10k acre depending on planning. Even an old codger like you should be able to see that. The other thing is of course the...

The reason it is expensive to buy a house is because of the planning laws and supply of money. Its not to do with who owns the land as much as how much land is made available to build on. Most land is agricultural usage - you cant really do a lot with it except farm it until it gets into a...

No. That isn't his argument. His argument is more probably - "this is bad news and sadly part of the collateral damage of a pandemic (when it actually was a pandemic). Yes we were ill prepared for a covid pandemic but that was then this is now"

Anthony Faucci said this way back.

Whered did I say people who were clinically vulnerable were on their last legs?

Do you realise how sensitive the pcr test is? It amplifies the viral strands way beyond what is transmissible. It is innaccurate to keep testing people who are healthy this way. HIV and Typhoid are different virus'