MattMoore
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superunknown
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Great, thank you for the tour. We ahve a lot of old machinery in the workshop where I work. How do you put up with all the dust and shavings everywhere?
MattMoore
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Philly
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Thanks for the tour, Matt!
Some nice machines, there. And that sawdust! :roll:
Keep up the good work,
Philly
Some nice machines, there. And that sawdust! :roll:
Keep up the good work,
Philly
Newbie_Neil
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Hi Matt
Thanks for the tour.
Those sub frames must be one heck of a weight to move.
Cheers
Neil
Thanks for the tour.
Those sub frames must be one heck of a weight to move.
Cheers
Neil
Hi Matt
How do you get on with Health & safety I assume this is a commercial shop?
No riving knife or crown gaurd on TS
No gaurding to rear of tennonor block
No guarding to lower half of radial arm saw
Working in a messy workshop with poorly stacked off cuts (yes HSE will pull you for it as well as too much dust on the walls)
Flammable liquids spread around the workshop
A lot of hanging wires
ETC ETC
Jason
How do you get on with Health & safety I assume this is a commercial shop?
No riving knife or crown gaurd on TS
No gaurding to rear of tennonor block
No guarding to lower half of radial arm saw
Working in a messy workshop with poorly stacked off cuts (yes HSE will pull you for it as well as too much dust on the walls)
Flammable liquids spread around the workshop
A lot of hanging wires
ETC ETC
Jason
Aragorn
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Fantastic old machines there Matt. Do they take much maintenance?
And what a wonderful workshop!
Never mind H&S - using that surface planer without a guard would scare the bejeezus out of me! :shock:
And what a wonderful workshop!
Never mind H&S - using that surface planer without a guard would scare the bejeezus out of me! :shock:
dedee
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Matt
Nice machines, Nice workshop, but I think I'd be seriously concerned with all that dust around.
Andy
Nice machines, Nice workshop, but I think I'd be seriously concerned with all that dust around.
Andy
Matt
Nice looking WS and machinery, what's the size.
Looking at the machines I see that you have an effective dust extraction system
Nice looking WS and machinery, what's the size.
Looking at the machines I see that you have an effective dust extraction system
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Anonymous
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Loads of useful iron there Matt, but as others have mentioned, the dust collection system appears to be somewhat under specified :wink:
MattMoore
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les chicken
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Matt
Nice looking shop BUTTTTTTTTT :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock:
Looking at the pictures of a "commercial shop ?" it would be a disaster if you had a surprise visit from HSE.
About four years ago in S Wales at the factory where I worked the HSE did a spot check, 9 hours of shear ****, wondering what "she" would find. Generally we were OK ( our budget for safety was circa £90K / year ) and a lot of it was my responsibility for risk assessments etc.
But she actually shut down the machine and issued us with a warning on a table saw ( the gap between the riving knife and blade was set incorrectly ) with a recommendation that the foreman attends a HSE course.
It does make sense especially if people are sharing machines.
:wink: :wink:
Les
Nice looking shop BUTTTTTTTTT :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock:
Looking at the pictures of a "commercial shop ?" it would be a disaster if you had a surprise visit from HSE.
About four years ago in S Wales at the factory where I worked the HSE did a spot check, 9 hours of shear ****, wondering what "she" would find. Generally we were OK ( our budget for safety was circa £90K / year ) and a lot of it was my responsibility for risk assessments etc.
But she actually shut down the machine and issued us with a warning on a table saw ( the gap between the riving knife and blade was set incorrectly ) with a recommendation that the foreman attends a HSE course.
It does make sense especially if people are sharing machines.
:wink: :wink:
Les
superunknown
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Health and safety is a serious business these days. They are really hot on guarding etc. We have had to do risk assessments on everything in our workshops.
There are a lot of guards missing on those machines. I would go hide if H&S come and visit.
There are a lot of guards missing on those machines. I would go hide if H&S come and visit.
MattMoore
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Matt have a word with scrit on this site, he knows his old machines and from discussions on another site is very up to date on safety (can't link to site as trade members only).
Unless all your saw blades have the same kerf you will need a riving knife for each blade!!
Jason
Unless all your saw blades have the same kerf you will need a riving knife for each blade!!
Jason
Matt
At the risk of sounding churlish I'd be seriously concerned for my own personal safety in that shop. The owners are also running the risk of being served with a Stop Notice if the HSE find out about the state of (mainly) the machinery. At a quick count I noted 13 or 14 offences on the machines alone there were 12+:
Sedgwick LK rip saw: No crown guard, no riving knife, no brake
Overhand planer: No top guard, no brake, probable defective switchgear (box appears to be loose), potentially illegal cutter block (i.e. cutter not retained in case of loosening of bolts)
Robland SD310 planer/thicknesser: No brake
Multico TM tenoner: Inadequate guarding, no brake (?)
Maggi radial arm saw: No lower blade guards as others stated, no dust extraction and if the machine hasn't got a brake fitted it needs to gave an automatic return device fitted together with a chip cartcher/home guard.
In addition there are loose cables and dust porting everywhere (trip risk) and the business obviously has no written Risk Assessment as if it had one all of the above would have been noted and corrected.
Positively Dickensian! And if you are working in there and have an accident the insurers would probably refuse to pay out as safety rules are being flouted everywhere. I've already had this discussion with my commercial insurers in the past so I know what their attitude is.
Scrit
At the risk of sounding churlish I'd be seriously concerned for my own personal safety in that shop. The owners are also running the risk of being served with a Stop Notice if the HSE find out about the state of (mainly) the machinery. At a quick count I noted 13 or 14 offences on the machines alone there were 12+:
Sedgwick LK rip saw: No crown guard, no riving knife, no brake
Overhand planer: No top guard, no brake, probable defective switchgear (box appears to be loose), potentially illegal cutter block (i.e. cutter not retained in case of loosening of bolts)
Robland SD310 planer/thicknesser: No brake
Multico TM tenoner: Inadequate guarding, no brake (?)
Maggi radial arm saw: No lower blade guards as others stated, no dust extraction and if the machine hasn't got a brake fitted it needs to gave an automatic return device fitted together with a chip cartcher/home guard.
In addition there are loose cables and dust porting everywhere (trip risk) and the business obviously has no written Risk Assessment as if it had one all of the above would have been noted and corrected.
They aren't supposed to let it get that way, though! My insurerers require me to sweep out at the end of every day and remove from the building. If nothing else shavings are both a trip risk and a fire hazard.MattMoore":20n21eym said:
Positively Dickensian! And if you are working in there and have an accident the insurers would probably refuse to pay out as safety rules are being flouted everywhere. I've already had this discussion with my commercial insurers in the past so I know what their attitude is.
Scrit
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