WIP: 6mx3m Pent Workshop build: Exterior Done!
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Insulation has always been on the list but languishing below many other things. That was until a bargain came up locally on gumtree, packs of insulation for £10 a piece! Three car journeys later sixteen packs were mine. Where to store them, and do I really need that much!
Some in the outhouse and some under a tarp on top of the wood store. Sorted.
I’ve still a number of the floor board left from the batch I bought from the closing down store. Me and my boy had great fun sorting them into graduated patterns. They will run vertically up the walls covering a few bays of the frames. Looks like I can do three, which will save 1.5sheets of plywood.
I need a load more ply but I’ll get the bays covered in the floor boards done and the ceiling. Then have to either pay through the nose for more boards or wait and hunt gumtree.
F.
Some in the outhouse and some under a tarp on top of the wood store. Sorted.
I’ve still a number of the floor board left from the batch I bought from the closing down store. Me and my boy had great fun sorting them into graduated patterns. They will run vertically up the walls covering a few bays of the frames. Looks like I can do three, which will save 1.5sheets of plywood.
I need a load more ply but I’ll get the bays covered in the floor boards done and the ceiling. Then have to either pay through the nose for more boards or wait and hunt gumtree.
F.
Funny how these buildings end up looking so much smaller inside when you fill them with tools. I had a similar experience with a full sheet of plasterboard on a ceiling a couple of years ago, proper Laurel and Hardy moment as the prop slipped slipped before I could get a screw in and it broke into 4 pieces over my head. Good deal on the insulation, well done.
robgul
Barry Bucknell is my hero
Using 6 x 3 plasterboards and wide broom work for me for fiting ceilings solo!
Yes, waiting to insulate after I bought 9 pieces of machinery, installed 8ft of shelves, and have two big projects going on was a stoopid idea!
rogxwhit
Established Member
Um - a bit puzzled about the moisture management here. I see boards (permeable), no vapour barrier, rockwool (permeable), then osb (hardly permeable at all). So if you heat the space, won't moisture condense on the inside face of the osb?
Yes it could. I’d pretty much squared myself away that the risk was small as I only occupy the space for about 10hours each week and work at 13-15degC.Um - a bit puzzled about the moisture management here. I see boards (permeable), no vapour barrier, rockwool (permeable), then osb (hardly permeable at all). So if you heat the space, won't moisture condense on the inside face of the osb?
I’m now sat here looking at membranes in screwfix so you’ll likely see a tory style u-turn shortly.
rogxwhit
Established Member
Yes, as you describe your usage, the risk is small. But usages can change ...
To do a 'proper' job the barrier would have to be contiguous, with lapped and taped joins - a complete wrap covering walls, floor, ceiling, anywhere there was insulation.
I think the rule for insulation 'sandwich' construction is that the outside cladding must be more breathable than the inside cladding.
To do a 'proper' job the barrier would have to be contiguous, with lapped and taped joins - a complete wrap covering walls, floor, ceiling, anywhere there was insulation.
I think the rule for insulation 'sandwich' construction is that the outside cladding must be more breathable than the inside cladding.
Yup, I have learnt lots during the last 5yrs since I first designed the building. I specifically would not have OSB the outside. Everyday is a school day.
Inspector
Nyuck, Nyuck, Nyuck!
Better not tell us colonists that we are doing it wrong. 
It's been working for us since before the 70's when I was a framers helper out of high school and that was near Vancouver where it is just as wet as England. I've never seen any house or building built "backwards" like you do. Main thing is to do whatever method you like properly.
Pete
It's been working for us since before the 70's when I was a framers helper out of high school and that was near Vancouver where it is just as wet as England. I've never seen any house or building built "backwards" like you do. Main thing is to do whatever method you like properly.Pete
Goesbysteve
Established Member
Are you using moisture resistant plasterboard?
Inspector
Nyuck, Nyuck, Nyuck!
rogxwhit
Established Member
Or Wales or Scotland, for that matter ... ;-)
One of the best things ever bought were telescopic props for doing this. Don't need to use them often now but an absolute godsend when refurbing the house and replacing all the knackered old lath and plaster ceilings with boards.
So I listened to reason and went out and bought a vapour barrier and took down the little I had done and did it almost properly. I didn’t tape every join as tape is really expensive. Anyhow figured I reduced the area for transmission of moisture by 99% anyhow.
Bits were insulated and boarded, the painted where I would be unable to reach later. Insulating and in use building was a real pain.
Bits were insulated and boarded, the painted where I would be unable to reach later. Insulating and in use building was a real pain.
Final side done over the last week, ran out of membrane for the last bay and wasn’t buying another mile for the last inch, so some reuse of the insulation packaging. Racks up and stacked for the long timber. All jobs ticked off and workshop back ready for use. Knackered now, time for a rest.
Jester129
Established Member
Congratulations on your efforts and the success!
That is one massive piece of wood in the 3rd photo up, it looks about 15 feet long and around 2.5 inches thick!
Workshop looks great.
Well done again!
That is one massive piece of wood in the 3rd photo up, it looks about 15 feet long and around 2.5 inches thick!
Workshop looks great.
Well done again!
Molynoox
Established Member
I'm loving your workshop Fitzroy!
You have done a great job with it all, I'm especially impressed with the home made windows! I seriously need to get some storage sorted in mine, everything is in plastic boxes.
Top job
Martin
You have done a great job with it all, I'm especially impressed with the home made windows! I seriously need to get some storage sorted in mine, everything is in plastic boxes.
Top job
Martin
