What to think about this saw

[graween]

Hello.

I bidded on a saw, and after asked for a picture of the blade having doubts...

It looks like there is some 'pitting' on the blade. I'd like to get your opinion about it.

Do you think it'll be usable or not. I mean if not, I can always use it to train myself to saw sharpening or use it for rough cutting anyway (with bigger teeth size), or change the blade size.
Teeth height is about 2mm (according to the seller) and teeth ratio is about 6 tpi.

Thanks for your opinions.

 

[graween]

I finallya managed to getthe picture .... :evil: :evil: :evil:

http://i1001.photobucket.com/albums/af1 ... nnamed.jpg

Thanks.

 

[TrimTheKing]

Hi graween

I am by no means an expert (on anything, never mind saws ) but IMHO it doesn't look too bad. I reckon once the teeth are filed and set (looks like there is no set at all on the ones in the pic, or only a very little on a few of the teeth, but that could be the pic) then the pitting will maybe knock a bit off the performance, but I don't think it should make too much difference.

Then again, a saw expert may come along and tell me that's a load of cr@p.

HTH

 

[bugbear]

Hello.

I bidded on a saw, and after asked for a picture of the blade having doubts...

It looks like there is some 'pitting' on the blade. I'd like to get your opinion about it.

Do you think it'll be usable or not. I mean if not, I can always use it to train myself to saw sharpening or use it for rough cutting anyway (with bigger teeth size), or change the blade size.
Teeth height is about 2mm (according to the seller) and teeth ratio is about 6 tpi.

Thanks for your opinions.

I don't know about France, but in the UK I wouldn't buy that saw, because better ones are common and cheap.

BugBear

 

[graween]

Hi.

Thanks for the advices. I cancelled my bid, and the seller, was nice to agree.

Now the problem is I must find a nice saw. I agree there are a lot of nice saws, but on ebay, not so much people are willing to send to France.
And over here it's hard to find such saws. You find a lot of bowsaws, but I don't favour them that much.

Plus the shipping of such items can be expensive. And the exchange rate is not in the favour of € now.
It was at christmas so I bought stuff from UK

Well i'll have to watch ebay or other old tools sellers.

Thanks.

 

[dunbarhamlin]

Though purely academic now you've managed to pass on this saw, I suppose intentionally oversetting and then stoning back would negate the pitting issue on a blade like this (if the pitting wasn't too deep?)
Thoughts, BB? (Imagine, if you will, that it was Great Grandpapa's saw)
Steve

 

[matthewwh]

Hi Graween,

If you are going for an old saw with a cast steel or blister steel blade then expect this sort of finish, it's not necessarily caused by neglect, many of them left the factory like that. The quality on this type of steel was enormously variable, so you get very good ones and very bad ones.

If you are looking for a good quality saw for sensible money and are prepared to invest a little time and effort in sharpening it and making a handle, we have a new range of handsaw kits from Atkinson Walker that are extremely good value. I'm working on some cad drawn handle designs at the moment but you can pick up a pdf copy of the sharpening and use instructions here.

Another off the wall option is to consider Japanese saws, they are years ahead of us in hand sawing technology and although they don't have the same feel as western saws the performance in terms of accuracy and speed of cut is breathtaking and at around the £30-£40 mark they are very affordable.

 

[woodbloke]

Another off the wall option is to consider Japanese saws, they are years ahead of us in hand sawing technology and although they don't have the same feel as western saws the performance in terms of accuracy and speed of cut is breathtaking and at around the £30-£40 mark they are very affordable.

They do cut more quickly than their Western counterparts, but I found them completely alien, partly because they need to be held 'overhand' with the handle horizontal. This makes them extremely tiring and awkward to use at a traditional height cabinetmaker's bench...something they were never intended for in Japan - Rob

 

[graween]

Hi.

Sorry about confusion, but I was talking about a handsaw, not a backsaw

I already have Japanese saws (ryoba, kataba) and also european kind saws (veritas an LN tenon, dovetail and carcass).

Now I'm looking a for a handsaw kind of diston, ... It seems, it is only availaable new by Pax (22,24,26,28" long, rip or corsscut) but I've heard good and bad about them, so no really made up my mind.
So I was looking at an lod quality one (cheaper of course), to see if it's worth or not.
I've read a thread here about pax, where it said they were ok, but needed sharpening prior to use.
I'm evaluating both (new and old) as I dont' feel great about rehabiliting a saw that might be wavy, kinked or bend. It's ok with sharpening, but not that. And on ebay or such, you can't really be sure the saw will be straight..... :?, this is what leads you to buy new. Also my time is limited.

Thanks.

 

[bugbear]

Plus the shipping of such items can be expensive.

I know :-(

In returning a favour, I shipped a (sharpened and tuned) 3 GBP saw to Holland, and had to pay 20 GPB postage!!

BugBear

 

[bugbear]

Though purely academic now you've managed to pass on this saw, I suppose intentionally oversetting and then stoning back would negate the pitting issue on a blade like this (if the pitting wasn't too deep?)
Thoughts, BB? (Imagine, if you will, that it was Great Grandpapa's saw)
Steve

Yes, that sounds like it would be the way. The saw IS restorable, and (as you suggest) if it were Great Grandpapa's saw I would restore it.

But, lacking such motivation, I'd rather put my restoring time and talent (both in short supply) into something with a better end result, especially when such "tries" are so cheap.

BugBear