What push blocks

[n0legs]

Just ordered 2 x micro-jig grr-rip blocks from wood workers workshop.
The wife made me (and paid for one of them) after i showed her n0legs picture of his hand in this thread :lol: :lol: :twisted:

n0legs??? .... n0hands =D>

Excellent result my friend =D> :lol:
What else do you want, I'll see what other pictures I can post :lol:

 

[DennisCA]

Not just in woodworking you can loose limbs. My auto mechanic had a beam fall on his hand and ripped his thumb off, only held on with a bit of flesh. 17 hour surgery to re-attach and still unsure to what degree of recovery it'll be.

Honestly I can't wait for the promised future to get here with regards to prosthetics that feel and you can control with your mind. I know many people who would have great use of such things, including children born without all their digits.

 

[PAC1]

Jacob-thank you for the explanation. I will continue using my hands. A push pad is better for small 6" square pieces as the wood cannot take flight. I still prefer to hand plane such small pieces to an approximation of flat and then use the thicknesser with a false bed 2' long so that I can safely retrieve the piece.

 

[Jacob]

..... A push pad is better for small 6" square pieces as the wood cannot take flight.

Watch this videoof that fat yank nearly losing his fingers as his workpiece takes flight from under his grabber. Hands too near the cutters - a much bigger hazard than the dangers of kick back (often exaggerated)
I don't rate that HSE grabber video either, for the same reasons. Also because the left hand becomes redundant - much better with a push stick in each

I still prefer to hand plane such small pieces ...

Me too - I was just using that as an example of what you can do with push sticks - they can make you very versatile.

 

[Peter Sefton]

..... A push pad is better for small 6" square pieces as the wood cannot take flight.

Watch this videoof that fat yank nearly losing his fingers as his workpiece takes flight from under his grabber. Hands too near the cutters - a much bigger hazard than the dangers of kick back (often exaggerated)
I don't rate that HSE grabber video either, for the same reasons. Also because the left hand becomes redundant - much better with a push stick in each

I still prefer to hand plane such small pieces ...

Me too - I was just using that as an example of what you can do with push sticks - they can make you very versatile.

I don't like planing anything under 400mm long on a surface planer but if I do then use a push block and they don't come much better than a gripper.

The video is using a saw bench not a planer and the gripper is not the problem, the lack of a riving knife and crown guard is the issue here. This is a classic example of kick back and how quickly it does happen.

Push sticks are not recommended to be used on a planer and best avoided, if the push stick comes in contact with the round cutter block on either a planer or spindle moulder this can cause kick back it self.

Cheers Peter

 

[Peter Sefton]

Just ordered 2 x micro-jig grr-rip blocks from wood workers workshop.
The wife made me (and paid for one of them) after i showed her n0legs picture of his hand in this thread :lol: :lol: :twisted:

n0legs??? .... n0hands =D>

http://woodworkersworkshop.co.uk/epages ... cts/MJ_GB1

Thanks Jmac they will leaving us this afternoon.

Cheers Peter

 

[Jacob]

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The video is using a saw bench not a planer and the gripper is not the problem, the lack of a riving knife and crown guard is the issue here. This is a classic example of kick back and how quickly it does happen.

My point is is that the gripper is very nearly the problem as his fingers are very near the blade and he only just avoids a nasty cut. With push sticks you'd probably get the kickback much the same but with your fingers well out of the way

Push sticks are not recommended to be used on a planer and best avoided, if the push stick comes in contact with the round cutter block on either a planer or spindle moulder this can cause kick back it self.

Cheers Peter

If push-stick comes into contact it just gets trimmed a bit. They are sacrificial, your fingers are not. I can't see how they'd cause kick back in themselves. I recommend them!

PS just had a look at http://woodworkersworkshop.co.uk/epages ... cts/MJ_GB1
I think they are an expensive bad idea - an over complicated solution to a simple problem, in spite of "smart Gravity Heel technology" :lol:
You are better off with push-sticks made from ply offcuts

 

[Jmac80]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YPIsTKpAoE4

:lol:

 

[PAC1]

Jacob what am I supposed to learn about push sticks on planers from a video of some Yank trying to cut his fingers off on video using a rip saw. It tells me a great deal about the Yank and why you do not use push blocks on a rip saw and what the #€$¥ is he doing with his hand beyond a running saw, but tells me nothing about push blocks on a planer. HSE say to use a push block if you must plane short pieces. Logically there must be more control of a short piece of material on a planer by using a push block rather than two push sticks especially if the bridge guard is properly set. Not that I plane short pieces on my planer.

 

[Sgian Dubh]

Jacob, so if you were planing a 2.1m 115 x 75 door jamb you would use push sticks? If yes why is that better than using your hands? Same with say a 300mm x 25 panel?

Both. I'd use my hands but have a push stick in each of them to give longer reach when needed but mainly for the last bit where the cutters are exposed. ...You have your two push sticks either in your hands or easily within reach, all the time.

I think I understand your methodology Jacob. I suppose the main things are that it's safe and it works for you. I admit I'm unlikely to emulate the technique. Slainte.

 

[Jacob]

Jacob what am I supposed to learn about push sticks on planers from a video of some Yank trying to cut his fingers off on video using a rip saw......

That push blocks leave your fingers close to the action (saw, planer, spindle, anything) and if something goes wrong maybe too close.

 

[Claud1]

For years I didn't use push sticks or push blocks on my surface planer but for the last couple of years I would not use the surface planer without push blocks, I have just got into the habit of using them no matter what thickness the wood is.