Westonbirt wood sales, anyone been ?

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Thanks for that.
Worth a trip next month then as I can't get to this weekend's sale.
 
Don't forget there will be an entrance fee to westonbirt, don't think they let you in just to the sale area.

I've yearly membership so don't take much notice of current entry procedures.

Used to buy wood from there in the early days of friends wood sale efforts and that which they had on offer at the last Treefest was varied and good quality for the price.

It was all green though, so you need to take that into account.
 
CHJ":1phsuz15 said:
It was all green though, so you need to take that into account.
Andy T is saying in his thread it was either air dried or kilned. Maybe different materials at different events ? or have policies changed in the last few years ?
 
The bulk of the wood will be as removed from the arboretum, either log or slabbed/planked, they don't have storage facilities for lots of dried wood.

Drop the 'friends' an e-mail to check yourself if they can tell you what is likely to be available.

Have not browsed the 'yard' for some time so do not know what they have there at the moment, I know they had some very nice redwood there during the last treefest but it was only as milled not dried.
 
CHJ":3q9gptze said:
Drop the 'friends' an e-mail to check yourself if they can tell you what is likely to be available.
Thanks I'll do that a couple of weeks before the next sale.

It's difficult to get an idea of an event like this. It could be a mad scramble on the first hour for anything good or just a very laid back couple of days that few people bother with. Is it the sort of event where they'll offer to cut boards down to length to fit in a car/van or should I bring a saw ?
I quite like the idea of buying from them as a charitable concern and would be happy for some of it to be somewhat green. On the other hand if it also offered some quality timber nearly ready for use indoors I might be looking to buy a more serious quantity.
 
Yes the guys will cut it up or at least lend you a saw to help.
Very friendly set of volunteers, like all such ventures I get the impression that the regulars get to know about availability in advance, last time I looked at what was available I got the impression that they have got more value savvy these days. But prices at the treefest were realistic.
 
Just to follow up after my first visit;

Firstly; Trying to email the 'friends' didn't work to find out what might be available, I just got a 'can't contact them' type reply from the Westonbirt web site. From what I found out talking to the volunteers on site it wouldn't have been much use anyway.

As a member of the RHS I got on site free and as we were only going to the wood sale the staff on the main gate didn't charge for my wife either. I guess on busier days that might be different, but a wet morning in December isn't their busiest hour.

It's a somewhat disorganised operation. AndyT's photograph capture the whole operation pretty well. labels are pretty much non-existent, so if you don't know your timber well you'll have to rely on the volunteers for information.
The volunteers are helpful, enthusiastic and knowledgeable. Their only difficulty seems to be that they don't always know what has been felled or pruned and left for them by the arboretum. There are some smaller bits of log, the sort of small diameter stuff for turning, that they can only guess at.

Smaller diameter wood is in sensible lengths that will be useful for turners.
Most of the bigger logs seems to be converted to about an inch and half thickness. OK for furniture makers, but maybe a bit thin for turners. Just about everything is in waney edged boards about 7 to 8 feet long. The volunteers are happy to cut these down to length to fit into cars etc, but it might be prudent to bring your own saw. All the sawing is done by hand, so one needs to carefully consider where to cut to minimise waste.
Moisture content is likely to be very variable. Some timber is newly cut and totally green and positively wet to the touch, some has been in stick for some time (my purchases were at about 20%). Again the volunteers have a good knowledge of how long boards have been around and how dry they might be.
On Sunday they were receiving a new kiln, so they may be able to offer some kilned timber sometime next year, but given the open air storage I doubt they'll ever be able to offer really 'modern house ready' dry timber.

Prices; These seem pretty much made up on the spot and subject to reasonable barter, cash or cheque only. I bought some inch and half thick Ash that worked out at about £27 cubic foot, not a total bargain, but maybe 20-25% off merchant prices. Fair and all to a good cause.
The boards I bought to seem to be good quality though.

If you're the sort of person who wants to buy ready to use timber in nice ready prepared sizes, it's probably not the place for you.
If you're used to buying and handling waney edged air dried timber, you'll be at your ease.
If you'd like to try buying waney edge, rough timber for the first time, it might be the perfect place as there's no commercial pressure and the volunteers all know their stuff and are probably particularly aware of the difficulty of buying wood like this for the first time and very helpful.

Overall I enjoyed my visit and am very happy with the wood I bought. It's a shame the weather was so dire on Sunday as it would have been nice to have spent longer browsing through the piles, but right now I haven't much space to buy more timber to dry, but I'll be back there ;-)
 
Bizarre. I've never heard of them and yet only live 10 miles away!!!! And I was there only the other evening walking around the Enchanted Forest. I'll check them out next year. Thanks for the heads-up.
 
Nick Gibbs":2nx5i4h1 said:
Bizarre. I've never heard of them and yet only live 10 miles away!!!! And I was there only the other evening walking around the Enchanted Forest. I'll check them out next year. Thanks for the heads-up.

I've not been to Westonbirt for donkey's years. 30-odd years ago, when I was still living in Glos. I used to go quite regularly, but then they started shouting at you for climbing their trees! :mrgreen:
 
Rhossydd":1cfka2o1 said:
Prices; These seem pretty much made up on the spot and subject to reasonable barter, cash or cheque only.

Perhaps best to find (download!) a merchants price list before going so you can spot good/bad prices when you see 'em.

I do remember severe sticker shock when I went to North Heigham sawmill in its old incarnation.

BugBear
 
bugbear":yd3udtw2 said:
Perhaps best to find (download!) a merchants price list before going so you can spot good/bad prices when you see 'em.
Indeed, good advice.
The difficulty is appreciating how timber grading and moisture content will effect published prices. Buying air dried waney edged timber is never an exact science with prescribed known prices.

At Westonbirt it ultimately it comes down to if you think the price is fair for what you want it for, if you later find it's no great bargain you have to think of it as a donation to a worthy cause. If that approach is uncomfortable for anyone, Westonbirt wood sales might not be a good place to buy timber.
 

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