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Steve Blackdog

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Has anyone retrofitted their lathe with an electronic variable speed control?

It must be 30 years since I did physics at school, but surely it can't be that hard to make one. Granted it will invalidate the guarantee... :D

Steve
 
Most lathes will have single phase induction motors.

There is no electronic method to make these motor run at variable speed.

The motor needs to be changed for a 3 phase one with similar mountings and a single to three phase inverter to give a variable speed solution.

If you have such things around or can access second hand part then this is feasible. Buying a new motor and a new inverter will be an expensive option but doable.

HTH

Bob
 
Thanks, Bob

I had (foolishly) assumed that it would work on the same principle as a transformer on a train set, which would increase or decrease the power in the tracks powering the engine in the train.

I also wondered if you could pinch a spin speed controller from the spin dryer in a washing machine.

I'll take it from you though and put my efforts into mastering controlling my skew chisel rather than trying to understand three phase inverters :D

Steve
 
Sorry to spoil your plans Steve.

Washing machines have brush motors and are speed controllable b y varying the power input via the controller.

Induction motors run at nominal speed= mains frequency x 60 x2/ number of motor poles

eg 2pole 3000rpm actually 2850
4pole 1500 rpm actually 1425
6 pole 1000rpm actually 950 and so on
You will possibly find one of these speeds on the lathe motor plate.

Bob
 
I've fitted a speed controller to a Record RPML300 lathe, and had all the bits ready to fit one to my Tyme Avon, but now I'm about to get the Mystro, will need to rethink the latter.
Basically, all you need ( :D ) is an inverter to convert from the single phase mains supply to 3-phase and an appropriate 3-phase delta connected motor. Which sounds simple, but.....

1. Inverters can be quite pricey. I picked up the 1/2 horse one for the Record off Ebay, as was the motor, but to buy new you are talking £150plus.

2. The motor has to have the same fitting, (foot mounting or a flange of the same diameter) as the original, the same shaft diameter and length. Or you have to have access to metalworking kit. For the Record, I had to turn an extension shaft to fit the original pulley, and an intermediate plate to accommodate different flange sizes.

3. Dustproofing. Inverters over 1/2 hp are usually fan cooled, so you have to find a way of keeping dust out of them. The Record one was cooled by a passive heat sink, which avoided that problem, but I'm still puzzling over the bigger one.

And having done all this, I'm not entirely convinced that it's necessary. I did it on the Record because it only had three speeds. The four speeds on the Avon have never really caused me problems, and the Mystro has 5 speeds, so maybe in a few months, I'll be offering my foot mounted motor and inverter to anyone interested!
 
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That's really helpful to know. My lathe certainly isn't worth investing that sort of money on!

If anyone from Axminster's reading this - a good idea for manufacturing a variable speed kit in China? Target price £75!


Steve
 
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