Unemployed to work for benefits.

[Max Power]

Plans are afoot to make the unemployed work for the money they get.
About time.
The unemployment queues will go down quicker than a pint of beer at an alcoholics convention :lol:

 

[wizard]

Would you employ a waste of space with tattoos on his face, swears all the time, off his face on drink and drugs, done time for theft and GBH.
So what happens to them! Give them money to live. Let them go out and rob people. Put them in a gas chamber. Lock them up for the rest of their life at our expense.

 

[marcros]

can we squeeze a couple more stereotypes in there?

 

[wizard]

What i am saying is there are people that are not fit for work so just give them the money or get rid of them

 

[Random Orbital Bob]

nice to see altruism and philanthropy thriving so strongly on the forum

 

[Jacob]

What i am saying is there are people that are not fit for work so just give them the money or get rid of them

Like the bankers?

 

[Sheffield Tony]

This noxious policy, designed to appeal to all that is worst in human nature, just keeps popping up. "Help-to-work" Hah - I bet it will really feel like someone is helping you. Not !

So you force the unemployed to work for their benefits. What jobs will you have them do ?

So you start out with punitive non-jobs that didn't need doing, Soon we can move on to using the forced labour squad to help out some of those public sector workers - street sweepers etc - to keep costs down. Before long you could replace quite a bit of the public sector with a load of co-opted out of work former public sector employees for a fraction of the cost. Slave labour, got to love it.

 

[Racers]

They are all trying to get votes/headlines, these policy's aren't worth worrying about.

Pete

 

[davic]

Sell the manufacturing out from underneath the people and then blame them for being unemployed.

"1,701 people apply for just eight barista jobs"

http://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle ... rista-jobs

Thirty grand for a degree that will never pay for itself. Yes; there is more to education than being prepared for industry

 

[Steve Maskery]

The vast, vast majority of people who are out of work would love to have a job and be paid for it. I think giving work to the unemployed is an excellent idea. Just make sure they are paid properly for doing it and everyone should be happy.

 

[Max Power]

This policy is aimed at the long term unemployed ie. that have not worked for at least two years.
If a migrant worker can come over here and gain employment then why cant this group of unemployed ?
People have got to start accepting responsibility for their own lives

 

[MIGNAL]

I don't really see the point. If there is a job to be done, employ someone. That will immediately cut the unemployment rate. If no one is prepared to pay a living wage (no matter how low) then it's quite obvious that the jobs don't exist. We simply have to get it out of our heads that full employment is possible. It isn't. It hasn't been possible for over 50 years. You just have to look at the unemployment rates across the whole of Europe to realise that. Look at the official unemployment rates and then almost double them to get the true figure! You are in cloud cuckoo land if you think that the jobs exist for all but a tiny percentage of the unemployed.

 

[davic]

The funny thing is (funny to me at least) is that all those that thought being shat on and having no money are having it happen to them. Living in a affluent part; it amuses me to see ex 40k + professionals complaining about how broke they are.

The best bit is that those that bragged about their house price now have there children living at home 30k in debt, no job and cant afford rent and will be living with mom and pops until they are 50.

The other source of amusement is that when pay and conditions were going down, nobody minded because of house price inflation. Now they are working in **** jobs and cant afford to live in there own house and cant sell it.

The poor did not cause this crisis but are being blamed for it. Sorry if this is not right wing enough for you

 

[Sheffield Tony]

If a migrant worker can come over here and gain employment then why cant this group of unemployed ?

Because:
-As a migrant worker, they are probably both reasonably young and energetic.
-They will be sending their money home, where it has greater purchasing power than here.
-They are quite probably willing to live in a caravan parked on the edge of a field, sharing with 10 other migrant workers, because they don't intend to do it for ever.
-etc, etc.

 

[davic]

This policy is aimed at the long term unemployed ie. that have not worked for at least two years.
If a migrant worker can come over here and gain employment then why cant this group of unemployed ?
People have got to start accepting responsibility for their own lives

I stopped reading the sun after they hacked into a dead child's phone to get a story

 

[Baldhead]

Hopefully it won't be long before one of the site Mods will spot this tread and removes it.

BH

 

[Paddywack]

Any facts to go with the assumptions or is it personal rants.

 

[Max Power]

"Hopefully it won't be long before one of the site Mods will spot this tread and removes it."
Why :? Are attempts to solve the problem of long term unemployment an unmentionable subject ?
Wouldn't you rather attempts were made to get them back into employment

 

[Racers]

No politics rule on this site.

No6 in the list above.

Pete

 

[tomatwark]

It will cost more money than letting them stay at home watching daytime tv.

Someone will have to pay for supervisors, hard hats, hi vis jackets, work boots, risk assessments , legal bills when someone breaks a nail and tries to sue for compensation.

It may seem a good idea but it will not work in practice, just goes to show that Osborne has never had to do a days work in his life and has not got any idea of how the real world works, unless it involves silver spoons.

We are now in the silly months of the run up to the next election, with the game of who can come up with the daftest policy.


Tom

I think it will be 7.00pm when this thread is removed, any advance?