Todays turning

[johnny.t.]

Made this today from spalted sycamore, with a sapele(i think) lid, its had a coat of danish oil and by the way it sucked it up its going to need a few more. Its about 5" tall(without top) and the hole through which its hollowed is 1 1/4" wide.


The lid is a nice snug fit and opens with a nice pop(like a cork comming out of a bottle) . Comments/critisms appreciated.

Cheers JT

 

[maltrout512]

Hi JT, nice bit of turning. You will find that it will drink the danish oil. (any oil). Great work. Merry Christmas and Ho Ho Ho.

 

[cornucopia]

well- the hollow forms nice,great curve but the finial isnt for me, i dont think the woods work well together, its out of proportion with the piece and it lacks any definition. was the sycamore wet? if so the finial wont fit very well for long,to make hollow forms with lids or finials the hollow form must be rough turned first.

 

[johnny.t.]

Thanks for your input, fair comments, I don't think the harsh lighting in the pic helped but yes a much darker wood for the finial would be better.However I don't see where it is out of proportion with the hollow form, could you please elaborate on this?
Your comments really are very much appreciated and help with the learning Here is a natural lit piccy.

 

[Bodrighy]

Have a look here for examples of these type of turnings. This lady specialisesm in this sort of thing.

Hope this helps

Pete

 

[cornucopia]

cindy's work via petes link is superb and studying other peoples work will help you to get a sense of proportion but its also just personal preference and what looks right to me might not look right to another.

as a genral rule finials look best when kept a 1/3 or smaller than the overall height of the main vessel. i.e 9" tall vessel 3" finial
but as you can see by some of cindys the 1/3rd rule isnt always right.
best wish's
george

 

[Bob Chapman]

Hi Johnny,

I think the shape of the hollow form is just right and shows off the wood beautifully, but agree with George that the finial just isn't quite right. It's difficult to discuss something like this without drawing diagrams and talking face to face, but it's not simply the proportions in terms of height, but also that the finial is very 'bottom heavy'. It's too big at the bottom and the narrow part is too parallel sided. It needs lightening up around the bottom and more of a sweeping curve towards the top. As the form itself is so good I think it would be worth experimenting with different finial shapes in different timbers. You can then judge which looks best for yourself. Whatever you do it's a great hollow form!

Bob

 

[Paul.J]

Another nice hollow form JT but the finial for me too lets it down.
Looks unfinished to me and is heavy/bulky looking.
Any chance of re-mounting it to make it look more delicate,and perhaps stain it with a darker colour :?:
Just my thoughts :roll:

 

[Bodrighy]

One way of balancing it is to make both a delicate foot and a finial to match. This one is cocobola with purple heart stem & finial. It looks better in real life as the purple heart is darker.



Pete

 

[loz]

Johnny have a look here for an experts dimensions !!!

http://www.irishwoodturnersguild.com/seminar08/cindydrozda/FinialStarDrawing[1].pdf

Loz

 

[Mark Hancock]

Johnny

Great hollow form but I agree with the comments regarding the finial. As Bob says it's hard to discuss without drawings but I'll try...

What you try to achieve when you combine different components such as beads and coves is an imaginary flowing line/curve which joins them all together. This helps draw the viewer's eye along the full length/height of the form in one go without interruption. If you think of a bead flowing into a cove on a spindle there is usually a flat between the two. This combination looks good if there is an implied flowing S curve from the bead to the cove. Hope that makes sense

 

[johnny.t.]

Thanks for the advice everyone,I see what your saying and will put a bit more thought into future ones.For now though I'm going to carry on with my second day laying in bed with the flu

JT