Starter table saw

[AndyP]

Hi I'm looking for my first table saw. I initially bought a second hand Scheppach HS100S which I did get cheap but the motor has gone, obviously too good to be true! To replace the motor will cost £150 and I'm debating whether it is better to invest this in a higher quality second hand machine.
Has anyone any suggestions?
Things I want to use it for are ripping small sheets of plywood (say half sheet).
Rebates for drawers etc.
Nothing too heavy duty and mainly softwood.
All advice greatfully received.

 

[Spectric]

You need to provide more info as there is a wide range of table saws and knowing what you wish to do is helpful in getting the right answers.

 

[AndyP]

You need to provide more info as there is a wide range of table saws and knowing what you wish to do is helpful in getting the right answers.

Spectric, thanks for the reply. I've added a little more detail to the original post but mostly light work on softwoods and plywood sheet etc. I suppose the honest answer going forward is I don't know until I start using one.
I have a track saw and a good mitre saw so it is to fill any shortfall from these.
Hope this makes more sense.

 

[Jameshow]

I would look for a naerok saw under the radar but good saws!

This one's rough and no cabinet..

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/19578191...tixoXeJTeO&var=&widget_ver=artemis&media=COPY
Also axi ts 200/250

Kitty 615 too.

 

[AndyP]

I would look for a naerok saw under the radar but good saws!

This one's rough and no cabinet..

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/19578191...tixoXeJTeO&var=&widget_ver=artemis&media=COPY
Also axi ts 200/250

Kitty 615 too.

Thanks Jameshow, I'll keep a look out.
The other brand I see at reasonable prices are Ferm, what is the quality of these like?

 

[eribaMotters]

You do not mention a budget. I would be looking for something small, 250mm blade, but with a cast iron or aluminium table. I would start my search with Startrite and Scheppach.

Colin

 

[Jameshow]

Pretty poor same as the other box saws tbh.

Imho there are 4 types of saw

1) box saws like the ha100s, titan etc. Noisy motors. £50 (used)

2) site saws like Bosch Makita DeWalt still noisy but more refined fences etc. £200+

3) big site saws like hs130, 300mm saws, steel top, quiet induction motors £100

4) workshop saws cast iron tops, induction motors, wings, sliding carriages etc. £200+

It all depends on what you need?

 

[AndyP]

You do not mention a budget. I would be looking for something small, 250mm blade, but with a cast iron or aluminium table. I would start my search with Startrite and Scheppach.

Colin

The replacement motor for the HS100S is £150, so about this price, give or take.
Thanks for the suggestions.

 

[AndyP]

Thanks for your comments, they've been most helpful, the spec I'm looking for is as follows.
Budget up to £150.

Blade diameter 200 or 250mm.

Table size up to roughly 500mm square. Stand not essential, I will store under the bench and take out when I need it, either on the bench or some sort of fold out support for small items. I don't have space to set up permanently.

Fairly portable, I have a covered outdoor work area where I would set up for larger stuff using tressles for support.

Thanks.

 

[Jameshow]

Where about are you.

https://www.gumtree.com/p/power-saw...w-240v-50hz-variable-speed-5000rpm/1449102676
This looks a good saw, there was a guy on here who reviewed it. I think it got pulled as its too much like the DeWalt....

 

[Not-Entirely-Useless]

Where about are you.

https://www.gumtree.com/p/power-saw...w-240v-50hz-variable-speed-5000rpm/1449102676
This looks a good saw, there was a guy on here who reviewed it. I think it got pulled as its too much like the DeWalt....

I have some Excel stuff - it's decent for the price

 

[Jameshow]

Me too used the mini router this morning..

 

[SLM]

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/19578191...d_CiZDlSE6&var=&widget_ver=artemis&media=COPY

 

[Jameshow]

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/19578191...d_CiZDlSE6&var=&widget_ver=artemis&media=COPY

I gave that saw but it's not portable by any means!

It's missing its base too.

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/40429912...tixoXeJTeO&var=&widget_ver=artemis&media=COPY
This is just above budget but hardly portable...

 

[sams93]

Where about are you.

https://www.gumtree.com/p/power-saw...w-240v-50hz-variable-speed-5000rpm/1449102676
This looks a good saw, there was a guy on here who reviewed it. I think it got pulled as its too much like the DeWalt....

I have one of these (paid £200 I think), and I get on really well with it. It's a site saw and that has to be acknowledged so it isn't as sturdy as a cast iron machine, but it works great and I use it for everything from intricate work to sheet good stuff. The mitre gauge it comes with is a bit rubbish.

I have a tiny workshop so have to move it outside to use it - so portability is vital for me.

They don't do them new any more, if mine broke I would get this:

https://ffx.co.uk/product/Get/Metabo-Ts254M-4061792180352-240V-254Mm-Table-Saw
If you want a referall discount code which takes 10% off you can use this Get 10% off at FFX

(also gives me a 10% off voucher)

 

[cowtown_eric]

how do you know the motor is "toast" or just needs a new starting capacitor?

 

[MikeJhn]

Things I want to use it for are ripping small sheets of plywood (say half sheet).
Rebates for drawers etc.

Cut sheet goods with a track saw.

Rebates for drawers with a router mounted on the track from your track saw.

Can't remember the last time I used by table saw, seems redundant since I bought the Track Saw and bits to fit the router on it.

 

[Not-Entirely-Useless]

Cut sheet goods with a track saw.

Yes. Sheets, even half sheets, can be hard to handle on a not-very-big table saw (speaking from experience here). Track saw (or circular saw with guide) and seam cheap foam under neath is easier.

Rebates for drawers with a router mounted on the track from your track saw.

Maybe - certainly possible

I use my table saw a lot. I prefer it for ripping to width (as against track saw) and I often use it for crosscuts if it's already up and ready (stored on a folding stand when not in use).

 

[AndyP]

how do you know the motor is "toast" or just needs a new starting capacitor?

There's a segment missing from the commutator unfortunately.

 

[AndyP]

MikeJhn and Not -Entirely-Useless.
For one off cuts the track saw is fine, I was thinking the table saw would need less setting up for multiple pieces of the same size that are outside the mitre saw capability.
I have a home made router table but thought the table saw may be a bit quicker and better for dust extraction for rebates etc.
I have thought about making a table with a adjustable mounting for the track saw rail to make repeat cuts easier, something like this