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We've had our 3.2Kw system for just under a year (the anniversary is actually next week) and in that time have generated 3000 units.

We have no complaints or reservations about our system or the installers we used (Southern Solar) but there are a number of reports of companies jumping on tht bandwagon and only being interested in getting your money. Have a look at http://www.which.co.uk/news/2011/06/sol ... h--256929/ and the links from that page. The one thing that I would ephasise is the importance of shade - it is usually mentioned but its impact is not usually shown. As an example on a sunny day our system will actually be producing 2800 - 2900 watts, but should a cloud cover the sun this will drop to about only 500 watts - so any shading you can control (trees) need to be managed.

As you are no doubt aware that the installation has to be done by an approved installer using approved components. Also if you go larger than 4Kw the rate reduces from 43.3p per unit generated to 37.8p per unit.

I think the important thing is to keep your wits about you - you want the installer to carry out a detailed survey to measure what you are likely to generate from the actual site. Our installer used a couple of devices to measure the actual likely production taking into account all nearby obstacles that could affect things by shading/reflections etc.

Please ask if you want more information - others on here have PV systems who will no doubt add their comments.

Misterfish
 
If you get one of the power companies to install the system, they will pay for everything, minus a very small fee, (usually around £100). You won't make any money back from the grid, as that goes to the power company (they effectively rent your roof), but you'll get free electricity! Jo
 
I have just ordered a 3.5 kw system I found a huge variation in the quotes also salesmen who seemed to have no idea about what they were selling be careful
 
jordec66":3j06z3x6 said:
If you get one of the power companies to install the system, they will pay for everything, minus a very small fee, (usually around £100). You won't make any money back from the grid, as that goes to the power company (they effectively rent your roof), but you'll get free electricity! Jo

You need to be careful with this. What happens if you want to sell your house and you've rented your roof to a power company for the next 25 years? Also you'll only get free electricity if you use most of your power during the day when it's sunny, but it won't help with cooking in the evening or lighting.

I'm going through the same process. The first guy who came in didn't know what he was selling. I asked him how long he had been in the business and he said 6 months! What was he doing before that? (thinking he might have been an electrician) - but nope - he had done a bit of property developing. OK, fine, so here's 12 grand of my kids inheritance and please climb all over my roof!

There are a lot of guys out to make a quick buck and who'll move on to the next thing as soon as the pressure gets too hot.
 
We had a look but decided there were too many unknowns for such a big investment. Short guarantee period, cleaning and maintenance, replacement and repair etc. Bigger savings by far from good insulation?
But solar hot water looked a better and cheaper bet - if linked to large heat-store tank, together with woodburner back boiler, econ 7 immersion heater, gas boiler for when all else fails.
 
I agree that the first action should be good insulation, and we've already done that and the payback time was incredibly short - less than 2 years.

As it's only the two of us, we decided that solar hot water was not cost effective for us. When we looked at our HW usage, it's only a shower in the morning and/or evening and hand washing. The dishwasher and washing machine are both cold fill so wouldn't benefit. It all seemed like too much effort for the occasional shower - although if we had a house full of teenage daughters we might think differently.

For us, PV looks like it would be worthwhile. Our pitched roof faces due south and has no issues with shade from adjacent buildings or trees, and is large enough for the max size for a domestic system to produce 4Kw. We're investigating the various types of panel available and are coming to the conclusion that it is probably best to stick to the German or Japanese ones rather than the Chinese clones. Guarantees given by Sharp, Mitsubishi or Sanyo should be worth more than from a Chinese new entrant. Although the sales peeps won't tell you unless you ask, you'll need to budget for a new inverter after 12 - 15 years.

For those that have yet to look into this, you receive a feed-in-tariff of 43.3p per KwH for ALL electricity you produce, even if you use that electricity yourself. You also receive a 3.1 p/KwH for unused electricity you export to the grid. This is not measured and it is assumed that you export 50% of what you generate. Any electricity you consume yourself whilst it is being generated is unmetered and you use it for free - AND still receive the 43.3p/KwH FIT.

Based on the govt website, a 4kw system ought to produce a FIT of about £1700 per annum, and selling back to the grid plus savings on power bought should add at least another £300, so it begins to sound interesting. A neighbour who has had a system fitted has found that he is comfortably exceeding the estimates in practice because we get more sun here than the govt figures assume. He received over £100 per month from the FIT even back in Feb/Mar despite having early morning shade issues that we don't have. The FIT is increased each year by RPI, so based on (say) 4% RPI per annum the FIT will double over a period of 18 years from the current 43.3p per KwH. Plus electricity is rising in price by at least 3x that rate, and as we are both retired will be able to take advantage of the free power by using our high consumption items (dishwasher, washing machine, oven, immersion) during the day when the system is producing. You could actually argue that use of the immersion heater to top up the HW midday is solar HW - but via free electricity.

On the face of it, the return should be a conservative 8% tax free even without factoring increases in the FIT due to rising RPI or rising electricity costs. That equates to a return of 10% gross from your savings account for a basic rate taxpayer - and that is pie-in-the-sky for the indefinite future. It just seems like a good low risk investment and hedge against inflation, and given that the FIT is guaranteed for 25 years from the date of installation, that takes me to age 83 and it is several generations since anyone in my family has lived that long.

The devil, as always, will be in the detail. I'll keep you posted, but in the meantime I would be interested in other peoples real world experiences.
 
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