Sloppy rawl in brickwork

[Random Orbital Bob]

Thats a good point Graham and in fact in a previous attempt to fix this....step one was simply go with a thicker gauge screw...so Im already pretty much max'd out on the diameter of the holes in the back plate. Given your approach costs nothing and I already have the mats, Im going to give it a try. Thanks for the tip.....I recall an old chippy mate of mine gave me this same tip years ago and I'd forgotten it

 

[bugbear]

Thats a good point Graham and in fact in a previous attempt to fix this....step one was simply go with a thicker gauge screw...so Im already pretty much max'd out on the diameter of the holes in the back plate. Given your approach costs nothing and I already have the mats, Im going to give it a try. Thanks for the tip.....I recall an old chippy mate of mine gave me this same tip years ago and I'd forgotten it

Is the worn hole parallel or tapered? I'd suspect the latter, and, if so, suspect almost anything will slip out unless you re-drill (filling optional).

BugBear

 

[Random Orbital Bob]

well no...parallel I guess. It was originally drilled with a regular 7mm masonry bit. Whats caused the sloppiness is the movement created in the fixing by the huge stresses of a length of hose being dragged about over the years while connected to a hoselock tap connector. Tap moves a bit each time....back plate moves....freeze thaw in the winter....6 years in and boom...sloppy. But the hole was parallel to begin....unless you're saying the tapering is how its worn over the years? I gues it does widen more at the mouth where the wear is at the most pronounced.

 

[Lee J]

knock the wall down and rebuild it completely, or, if it's a house wall then put the house up for sale and move to one that has a well fixed outside tap.

(my wife's suggestions)

job done.

I'd go for the fill it with grip fill option, sink a plug in and let it go off. then reattach

 

[thomvic]

My parents (cast iron) guttering was secured by wooden wedges into the brickwork either side of the brackets... until last year when after 110 years enough of the unprotected wooden wedges had finally given out and the whole run of cast guttering came down :shock:

Only 110 years? I though they used to do jobs to last! :roll:

Richard

 

[Graham Orm]

Thats a good point Graham and in fact in a previous attempt to fix this....step one was simply go with a thicker gauge screw...so Im already pretty much max'd out on the diameter of the holes in the back plate. Given your approach costs nothing and I already have the mats, Im going to give it a try. Thanks for the tip.....I recall an old chippy mate of mine gave me this same tip years ago and I'd forgotten it

Is the worn hole parallel or tapered? I'd suspect the latter, and, if so, suspect almost anything will slip out unless you re-drill (filling optional).

BugBear

If the wood is tight to start with the screw will make it even tighter, when it gets damp it will swell and make it even tighter, only then will it will fall out. This thread is one of the best I've seen for ages, it's hilarious.

 

[SimonB]

well no...parallel I guess. It was originally drilled with a regular 7mm masonry bit. Whats caused the sloppiness is the movement created in the fixing by the huge stresses of a length of hose being dragged about over the years while connected to a hoselock tap connector. Tap moves a bit each time....back plate moves....freeze thaw in the winter....6 years in and boom...sloppy. But the hole was parallel to begin....unless you're saying the tapering is how its worn over the years? I gues it does widen more at the mouth where the wear is at the most pronounced.

Possibly also consider a reeled hosepipe with short piece of hose connector, would remove a lot of the stresses on the tap.

 

[Random Orbital Bob]

Thats what I have

 

[MrYorke]

Blue plug?

Or hire a small pigmy to stand underneath it and hold it tightly in position. You may have to wrap insulation around the pigmy during winter months though.

Happy to help

 

[Graham Orm]

Sell the hose

 

[Random Orbital Bob]

I like the pygmy fix....My kids could park a bike in his........

 

[Lons]

just knock in the biggest plastic plug that's a tight fit then the next size down etc. until you're using the correct size plug for the screw. Works every time and gives a really tight fix as the plastic grips to itself - simples! If you want belt and braces, squeeze in some liquid nails as well.

Bob

 

[Random Orbital Bob]

dam good idea....thanks

 

[billybuntus]

Ask next door if you can put a hole in his wall and mount your reel there?

Maybe even borrow his water?