Sash windows

[chaoticbob]

Can anyone point me in the direction of plans (internet or printed) for sash window construction? I've spent a while searching, but of course any search phrases which include the word 'windows' throw up about a million links to Mr Gates' great gift to the world.
Background is that I moved into a house in a conservation area about a year ago, and on enquiring to the planning people was told that if I wanted to replace the windows (which is pretty much a necessity) they would have to be 'like for like' (single big pane, with a hinged 'awning' above), or sash windows.I really don't want to go for the like for like if I can avoid it.
Of the eleven windows to be replaced, the planning chap says I can do four with side-hung casements , which I can do. But 7 sash windows ... Hmm. I'm time rich, cash poor at the mo and would like to have a go at it myself.
Robin.

 

[mikefab]

Hi. I am just doing the same for the first time. Have a look at http://www.timnott.co.uk/Stuff/sashwindows.pdf and also search for the Mumford and Wood website. They sell sash windows and if you register you can download technical drawings. I spent quite a bit of time measuring the originals to copy them as closely as possible, just adjusting to leave space for seals.

Hope this helps.

 

[RobinBHM]

Try reddiseals and mighton for drawings, technical info etc.

 

[JonnyW]

You should try contacting Jacob on this forum. I think he's the forum's resident expert on all things sash/case/casement.

I may be wrong.

Regards

Jonny

 

[Jacob]

I'll pop down Bob jut remind me where you are.

cheers

Jacob

 

[JonnyW]

I'll pop down Bob jut remind me where you are.

cheers

Jacob

Nice one Jacob. I noticed from your web site, that you do a lot of work on sash and case and casement - so sorry if I've landed you in it.

I served my time with the Council's Schools and Public Buildings section, so spent many hours working on their listed buildings, and what seemed like countless hours 'trying' to repair sash and case windows.

A dying art Jacob.

Shetland could benefit from someone with that particular skill.

Jonny

 

[PAC1]

I'll pop down Bob jut remind me where you are.

cheers

Jacob

Nice one Jacob. I noticed from your web site, that you do a lot of work on sash and case and casement - so sorry if I've landed you in it.

I served my time with the Council's Schools and Public Buildings section, so spent many hours working on their listed buildings, and what seemed like countless hours 'trying' to repair sash and case windows.

A dying art Jacob.

Shetland could benefit from someone with that particular skill.

Jonny

Not entirely the National Trust have a workshop at Clumber Park and they are making traditional boxed sash and casement windows.

 

[JonnyW]

I'll pop down Bob jut remind me where you are.

cheers

Jacob

Nice one Jacob. I noticed from your web site, that you do a lot of work on sash and case and casement - so sorry if I've landed you in it.

I served my time with the Council's Schools and Public Buildings section, so spent many hours working on their listed buildings, and what seemed like countless hours 'trying' to repair sash and case windows.

A dying art Jacob.

Shetland could benefit from someone with that particular skill.

Jonny

Not entirely the National Trust have a workshop at Clumber Park and they are making traditional boxed sash and casement windows.

Sorry I should've said a dying art 'repairing' windows here in Shetland. It just wouldn't be a viable business plan specialising in or just working on sash and case windows. We have a local company that makes them new here and can produced them very well.

I know from talking to folk here, that it can be very difficult finding a joiner that has the experience, know-how or confidence, to work on sash and case windows. Although having said that, it's usually a financial and double glazing decision that can see the demise of a repairable window, as new ones can end up costing 'slightly' more that paying a guy to stand for days repairing an original window and fitting secondary screens for thermal value reasons.

I've seen companies on the mainland, that take the whole window away and temporarily board up the opening. Take it away to their workshops and take time repairing them. I'm not aware of anyone doing that in Shetland. However, I may be wrong.

Jonny

 

[Jacob]

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I've seen companies on the mainland, that take the whole window away and temporarily board up the opening. Take it away to their workshops and take time repairing them. I'm not aware of anyone doing that in Shetland. However, I may be wrong.

Jonny

It's usually the simplest way to do it. You can't do a lot in situ, beyond glazing, chords and a bit of filler.

 

[chaoticbob]

Thanks all your replies, and for the links which I shall follow up. The email I had from the council said that single glazing would be OK, which surprised me - it seems that conservation trumps building regs. In fact if I did want to double glaze, it would have to be 'thin' double glazing, ie a maximum of 12mm gap.

I'll take up Jacob's kind offer of a visit.

Jacob- I'll PM you with contact details.
Robin.

 

[JonnyW]

Historic Scotland have been accepting Slimlite double glazing units, due to their thin cross-section and lightness - you therefore don't need a 12 foot thick astrigal to hold them up.

Then there's the new Slimlite Ultra Clear - they don't give off a coloured reflection that double glazed units can tend to give off at certain angles.

They've been used in listed buildings for a while now, and have a good U Value.

http://www.slimliteglass.co.uk

Regards

Jonny