MorrisWoodman12
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+1 for cabinet scrapers
Agreed, sanding just makes for a load of extra work and sanding dust is really grim.Dead right, The glassy smooth finish from a sharp plane is all you need, what you get with sandpaper is scratches.
I have made bespoke furniture for years and I hardly use any abrasives at all. Ian
You should film that with a warm filter in slow mow while only wearing a soft leather apron and send it in as an audition for the 2nd seaon of Britain's Best woodworker.Agreed, sanding just makes for a load of extra work and sanding dust is really grim.
After planing I also like to give the piece a brisk burnish with the shavings to give a beautiful shiny finish.
I think I'll stop posting on this forum.You should film that with a warm filter in slow mow while only wearing a soft leather apron and send it in as an audition for the 2nd seaon of Britain's Best woodworker.
Re scrapers, planes etc.
The parts are small, too small for planning, and, possibly, although i have no experience of it, too small for scraping.
So, whilst I appreciate the advice, its not what I was asking, and suspect (although no-one else was to know!) that its inapplicable my situation.
Re: paper
Ive just bought a box of autonet (which is said to be the same as abranet, just less flexible, which is fine for me) at 120. I guess ill buy another box at 180 when ive managed to mentally adjust to spending £50 on sandpaper...
Thanks to all.
Abranet and Autonet are definitely not the same. I use both, Abranet for material removal on wood as the particulates that are on the mesh are chosen to specifically break away leaving a new sharp edge as they wear allowing you to get a consistent sharp edge giving an even level of material removal. Autonet is designed with abrasives that wear gradually and do not crumble/break as they wear to allow a more even reduction in the visibility of scratches on the surface of the finish. Autonet is designed specifically for use on body filler/paint finishes.Re scrapers, planes etc.
The parts are small, too small for planning, and, possibly, although i have no experience of it, too small for scraping.
So, whilst I appreciate the advice, its not what I was asking, and suspect (although no-one else was to know!) that its inapplicable my situation.
Re: paper
Ive just bought a box of autonet (which is said to be the same as arbanet, just less flexible, which is fine for me) at 120. I guess ill buy another box at 180 when ive managed to mentally adjust to spending £50 on sandpaper...
Thanks to all.
Make sure the camera is in front of you.... if you are only wearing a leather apron, we dont want to see hairy ar5ewhile only wearing a soft leather apron
He could borrow Jay's. He doesn't need it.You should film that with a warm filter in slow mow while only wearing a soft leather apron and send it in as an audition for the 2nd seaon of Britain's Best woodworker.
Abranet and Autonet are definitely not the same. I use both, Abranet for material removal on wood as the particulates that are on the mesh are chosen to specifically break away leaving a new sharp edge as they wear allowing you to get a consistent sharp edge giving an even level of material removal. Autonet is designed with abrasives that wear gradually and do not crumble/break as they wear to allow a more even reduction in the visibility of scratches on the surface of the finish. Autonet is designed specifically for use on body filler/paint finishes.
Oh, I suggested scrapers because you said you were using a drum sander which made me think you were using large ish boards.
I suspect the autonet will be fine, try Morrells for the abranet next time, they have their own brand (still actually Mirka) and I certainly don`t pay £50 a box for it.
Kind of interested to know what you are making now?
Ollie
The drum sander is because the inner faces need to be entirely flat, and the type and shape of the wood is a pig for movement. So i rough cut the parts, leave them a fair while, then template route them, leave them a while, and then finish up on the drum sander to take out any final movement.
So the last bit of the process is on the, otherwise, finished parts.
I mean, maybe someone with more skill than myself could scrape them, but for me, whacking it with the ROS seems to be the easy option.
As they have a fair bit of give in them(relatively speaking) compared to paper belts, they work best at finishing on a belt sander rather than as a thicknesser on a belt sander. I use mesh on all my hand held stuff but paper belts on the big drum sander, especially if using it to get the last couple of x/y mm off a large panel etc.
Well, I actually have one of the Boegh consult machines which is why I was wondering if you used it for this application.It's slow setting epoxy. I can't really believe that some people use hot melt glue, but each to their own.
Parts come off the drum sander, which im abusing a little as a thicknesser, to take out any final movement in the parts. So i have 100 grit loaded up in that.
How many parts are you doing at a time? Just wondering if it would be worth you changing the roll in the drum sander to a finer grit, I do this sometimes when I have a batch of the same thing to make but obviously if it's only one or two items at a time it's probably not going to save you any time.
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