Record Scrub Plane

[Smudger]

The Record 400 1/2 Scrub Plane (so rare that Hampton doesn't list it in later versions of Planecraft) sold for £207 on the bay.

Was it anyone here who nabbed it? If so, what is it like - any idea of the date?

If not - is a 30s Record worth that sort of cash?

 

[Paul Chapman]

Never seen one - got any pictures, Smudger?

Cheers :wink:

Paul

 

[Smudger]

Only the one off the bay.

In my 1959 Planecraft it isn't listed, but it is mentioned in the text as obsolete and unused in the modern workshop, and it does appear in the glossary. I've never seen one, and neither has my Wood Guru - in fact we had been chatting about them the day before this one appeared on ebay in terms of mythical beasts. We think it must be from the 1933-39 period.

To compare I got a fully refurbed Stanley 40 with new aftermarket iron for $75 a few months ago.

 

[Paul Chapman]

Thanks for that, Smudger. Looks very similar to the old Stanley's. They are quite basic and I don't think I'd pay £200+ for one. I'd rather buy a new Veritas or LN - or just modify an existing plane. After all, it's only for scrubbing off large amounts of wood before bringing other planes into use.

Cheers :wink:

Paul

 

[Smudger]

Good for working up a sweat!

 

[Paul Chapman]

Good for working up a sweat!

Actually I find that as long as you have the blade really sharp, using a scrub-type plane is not as tiring as some people make it out to be - and certainly a lot less hard work than trying to use a normal plane for the same job. If you look at the scrub plane DVDs by people like Rob Cosman, they always attack the wood as if they have a train to catch, but you don't have to do it like that :wink:

Cheers :wink:

Paul

 

[Scrit]

The odd thing which happened was surely WWII. I've had/seen a few oddball Records in black (original) such as an #0100 and an #0101 which were made for the duration of the war when Chapman's (Stanley) were on war work. Is it not possible that items like the #400 were products of that period?

Scrit

 

[bugbear]

The Record 400 1/2 Scrub Plane (so rare that Hampton doesn't list it in later versions of Planecraft) sold for £207 on the bay.

Was it anyone here who nabbed it? If so, what is it like - any idea of the date?

If not - is a 30s Record worth that sort of cash?

Yes, but only to a collector, due to rarity. In terms of function (AFAIK) it's identical to the Stanley, so if you simply want to scrub wood, the Stanley would be the smarter purchase.

Bit like the USA made #90J, which is a pretty average tool (same as the UK version, in fact), but goes for big bucks due to rarity.

BugBear

 

[Alf]

fwiw the list of average prices for Record planes that came with my catalogue reprint put the 400 1/2 (in 2003) between £150-250 - so looking at the Ebay pic I'd say those prices still hold good. First listed as showing up in the November 1935 catalogue and out of production from around 1943. Pretty rare Record and definitely one to leave for the collectors.

Cheers, Alf

 

[Smudger]

But I want one as a user!

 

[Hatherton_wood]

I only know of four Record 400-1/2's in peoples collections - I've seen three of them. They were pre-war and I suspect only one batch was made although they surely would have made a few hundred. Since they are so rare they really should fetch much more than £207 I think.

 

[Newbie_Neil]

Hi Hatherton_wood

Welcome to the forum.

Cheers
Neil