Radar camera & speeding.

[devonwoody]

Last year I gave my old motor car to a daughter (car was 13 years old)
and yesterday she was stopped by the police at a road block.

She was informed that her rear number plate could not be read by a radar camera because of a film covering.

I never put on the film (although I have also hardly ever washed the car either , might be a dirt face?) My daughter is also innocent of any tampering. So I am wondering if having my car serviced a mechanic sprayede a covering over or even a car wash (twice) might have given it a coating.

I wonder how many speeding tickets I never got!

 

[RogerS]

Hi dw...I find that statement by the police very strange. Was it their radar camera that couldn't read the plate? Or are we truly in a big brother society and the police were actively looking for her because of the alleged 'film'?

In any event, it's a complete fallacy about all these strange fonts, films etc that people try out to avoid having their number plates recognised by the cameras. There's a very simple workflow that they have in place. It goes something like this...

Has care exceeded speed limit ? Yes >>> Can number plate be automatically recognised ? >>>>Yes....automatically send ticket. No ...then pass to human to eyeball the photograph. Then get human to send the ticket

 

[devonwoody]

At the present time we are assuming that she passed a mobile radar camera and the officer using the instrument then radios his followers further along the route who then pull over the cars they want to document. In this instance they told my daughter her number plate could not be read not that she was speeding. But stopped because of what mentioned above.

 

[RogerS]

That explains it. The devil in mean then goes on to think that you could selectively apply film leaving a message for whoever's manning the mobile speed camera :twisted:

 

[devonwoody]

Do you think it might have happened when they polished my car after body work done after a rust claim. ?

 

[RogerS]

Could well be. I hate the sticky feeling that you get left inside the car after it's been valeted.

 

[Paul Chapman]

Do you think it might have happened when they polished my car after body work done after a rust claim. ?

If it did, can I have some of their polish

Cheers :wink:

Paul

 

[devonwoody]

Try some of your own Paul, and do a ton pasing a radar camera you should soon know if thats the answer. :wink:

In fact if someone has a foreign visitor give them your car to use. :twisted:

 

[Mike.C]

DW, They might be talking about this stuff http://www.phantomplate.com/photoblocker.html

It appears to work or so they say.

http://www.photoblockeruk.com/Testimonials.htm

Cheers

Mike

 

[brianhabby]

Hi there,

If you deliberately apply such a product, would you be breaking the law?

As I understand it the law requires that a number plate has letters of a certain size etc but does the law state that the number plate must be able to be read by a speed camera?

What do others think?

regards

Brian

 

[andys wood shed]

Hi there,

If you deliberately apply such a product, would you be breaking the law?

As I understand it the law requires that a number plate has letters of a certain size etc but does the law state that the number plate must be able to be read by a speed camera?

What do others think?

regards

Brian

Perverting the course of justice

 

[Paul Chapman]

If you deliberately apply such a product, would you be breaking the law?

I would think so because you would be deliberately hindering the police in going about their lawful business.

Cheers :wink:

Paul

 

[Gary]

If you deliberately apply such a product, would you be breaking the law?

I would think so because you would be deliberately hindering the police in going about their lawful business.

Cheers :wink:

Paul

Technically you would be driving without a number plate as it does not comply to regulations which is an excise offence. However if you have applied a product to prevent being captured by a speed camera, you may be guilty of attempting to pervert the course of justice. (Very serious :lol: )

Back to Devonwoodys comment. It would not prevent radar speed detection which these days is done via the infamous Lti 20 20 Pro Laser.

 

[RogerS]

And as I said in an earlier post....they simply pass the photo to a human to read.

 

[Escudo]

I've got one of those camera detectors in my car plus a secret gadget under the bonnet. :wink:

It works very well, but it didn't stop me (on one occassion) getting a ticket from an unmarked van at the side of the road. :x

It is not full proof.

Esc.

 

[Argee]

Technically you would be driving without a number plate as it does not comply to regulations which is an excise offence. However if you have applied a product to prevent being captured by a speed camera, you may be guilty of attempting to pervert the course of justice.

Not quite - the offence is one under The Road Vehicles (Display of Registration Marks) Regulations 2001. Here's the relevant part:

Further requirements for registration plates
11. - (1) No reflex-reflecting material may be applied to any part of a registration plate and the plate must not be treated in such a way that the characters of the registration mark become, or are caused to act as, retroreflective characters.

(2) A registration plate must not be treated in any other way which renders the characters of the registration mark less easily distinguishable to the eye or which would prevent or impair the making of a true photographic image of the plate through the medium of camera and film or any other device.

Ray.

 

[Gary]

Yes Ray I agree with the act and section but the bottom line is, if your not complying with the regs you ain't got a number plate.

 

[Argee]

....... if your not complying with the regs you ain't got a number plate.

Isn't it amazing that there's a whole piece of legislation entitled "The Road Vehicles (Display of Registration Marks) Regulations 2001" which is there to deal with something that, according to your quote above, you don't have. This is not licensing or excise - it's DISPLAY - different altogether. Further discussion pointless.

Ray

 

[brianhabby]

So I guess the answer is - stick to the speed limit and none of this matters eh!

regards

Brian

 

[Gary]

Isn't it amazing that there's a whole piece of legislation entitled "The Road Vehicles (Display of Registration Marks) Regulations 2001" which is there to deal with something that, according to your quote above, you don't have. This is not licensing or excise - it's DISPLAY - different altogether. Further discussion pointless.

Ray

And the matter can be dealt with by FPN with the offence wording "Fail to display number plate".