President Elect's 'top team'

[ey_tony]

Oh the irony

No matter what the two Canadian guys say with regard their real life experiences of living in Canada on a daily basis , Robin will undoubtedly tell them they are wrong and keep doing so in order to appear to win the argument! That is the irony.

I disagree with many opinions but for instance I don't accuse 80 million people of having got it wrong just because their reasons for voting for a certain person didn't fit with my own views!

If people disagree with me, sooner or later one of us will be proved wrong and the other proved correct. Back and forth argument ultimately serves no useful purpose if opinions are polarised....better just wait to see who is correct.

 

[Jacob]

No matter what the two Canadian guys say with regard their real life experiences of living in Canada on a daily basis , Robin will undoubtedly tell them they are wrong and keep doing so in order to appear to win the argument! That is the irony.

I disagree with many opinions but for instance I don't accuse 80 million people of having got it wrong just because their reasons for voting for a certain person didn't fit with my own views!

If people disagree with me, sooner or later one of us will be proved wrong and the other proved correct. Back and forth argument ultimately serves no useful purpose if opinions are polarised....better just wait to see who is correct.

Well climate changing is now happening in different ways worldwide, so we wokies have been correct on that one from the start!

 

[danst96]

Blaming "exploding population" is usually shorthand for blaming immigrants.

No there are not, it's wishful thinking. We are coming to the end of fossil fuel use worldwide.

Well that wasnt my intention. I am one of those immigrants. I am originally from Leeds and my wife from Worcester. Its dangerous to assume bud.

 

[RobinBHM]

I think it is highly unlikely Trump will increase tariffs by 25% from Canada and Mexico, its just threats to try and force them to do more to stop people and drug smuggling

if Trump did stick 25% tariffs on when he gets into office, it would overnight cause price rises and inflation...so it wont happen.

of course Trump knows the making these threats he is keeping himself in the headlines, which is what he loves

 

[RobinBHM]

A strong economy leaches its way down through the whole system.

not if the rich own all the assets.
not if public services are limited


USA and UK have high gdps per capita, but both have worse standards of living for the majority of ordinary working people than many other western economies such as Northern Europe

 

[Chris152]

I disagree with many opinions but for instance I don't accuse 80 million people of having got it wrong just because their reasons for voting for a certain person didn't fit with my own views!

I guess the same applies to the 17, 277, 180 people who voted in favour of the National Socialist Party in Germany in 1933? On the contrary, my opinion is that they made a great mistake, precisely because they don't fit with my own views.

As for the idea that you can't make serious comment on a country's economy without living in that country, I'm sure there are economists throughout the world who would want to question that. Living in a country allows you to state your feelings and experiences of living there, but the idea that that trumps economists' accounts of the sate of the economy is just ridiculous.

 

[sploo]

That statement could be definitely said about the Trumpophobes on here.

Trump is "bad" because there's a whole wealth of factual, recorded, undisputed, evidence of his character and (illegal) deeds.

A couple of posters on here appear to dislike Trudeau, and attribute negative impacts on the Canadian economy on him personally; when there is evidence that ties those issues to Covid.

So there's one guy who some people love, and some people hate, but who has a string of convictions.

There's another guy who some people hate (e.g. in this thread), and (I assume) some people love, and the only "crime" he's been accused of (in this thread) is clearly the result of external factors.

There's a difference. Does that make sense?

 

[sploo]

He had an opinion that danst96 had disagreed with and he tried to find evidence to support his position. He managed to find two graphs, and the use of which as supporting evidence was very flawed. There was also some other stuff about how the Canadian economy was great due to the bloke but his assertions are shaky to say the least.

I don't dislike the man (I assume you mean Trudeau), why would I when I've never met him or been impacted by his actions? That would be irrational. What I dislike is the use of flawed arguments supported by misinterpreted evidence to support an argument that has been born out of ideology.

Right - that's a fair argument; if you feel the evidence presented was flawed then OK.

 

[Agent_zed]

No matter what the two Canadian guys say with regard their real life experiences of living in Canada on a daily basis , Robin will undoubtedly tell them they are wrong and keep doing so in order to appear to win the argument! That is the irony.

I disagree with many opinions but for instance I don't accuse 80 million people of having got it wrong just because their reasons for voting for a certain person didn't fit with my own views!

If people disagree with me, sooner or later one of us will be proved wrong and the other proved correct. Back and forth argument ultimately serves no useful purpose if opinions are polarised....better just wait to see who is correct.

I can only assume that you must by your own logic also agree that it was correct for Germany to support Hitler and the Nazi party, as they won 37% of the vote in 1932, which was significantly more than any other party. You said of Trump that 'I actually value the opinions of some 80 million people who 'actually' voted for him' (and similar above) so surely you would also apply that to the 1932 German voters? Or are you bigoted enough to say that those people who held a different view to yours were wrong?

Let's for fun amend your statement -

'You may have an opinion of Trump which I'm sure everyone who is bothered will also have, but don't insult 80 million people just because they don't agree with your own personal bigotry.'

To:

'You may have an opinion of Hitler which I'm sure everyone who is bothered will also have, but don't insult 13.4 million people just because they don't agree with your own personal bigotry.'

Do you still stand by your statement that you wouldn't insult millions of voters and say they were wrong?

logic is fun isn't it.