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Aragorn
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The link seems to be dead... Is it just me?
Jorden
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Nah, same here, server cannot be found
Dennis
Dennis
RogerS
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Nope
Aragorn
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Here it is:
(Bramers - click Quote and have a look how the code works to post a piccy)
What are your costs to make it? And how long does it take?
Are you looking to make a profit/pay for your time, or just make back a donation?
(Bramers - click Quote and have a look how the code works to post a piccy)
What are your costs to make it? And how long does it take?
Are you looking to make a profit/pay for your time, or just make back a donation?
johnelliott
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I'm surprised at the painted finish, unless the top is made of MDF?
Anyway, I would say £150-£250, although I wouldn't expect to sell many at the upper price
John
Anyway, I would say £150-£250, although I wouldn't expect to sell many at the upper price
John
Aragorn
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I agree with John's lower figure.
The paint finish looks very good quality from the pics. Is that just a brushed finish?
The paint finish looks very good quality from the pics. Is that just a brushed finish?
PowerTool
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Must agree with what's already been said - the finished article looks great,very well done! 
Andrew
Andrew
Excellent piece of work, How much to charge ????? no idea I never know what to charge myself when doing things. :roll: :roll: :roll:
Cheers Alan
Cheers Alan
engineer one
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16 hours at £10.00 per hour gets you to 160 quid, plus the price of the wood, not much margin in it.however as a show piece it works well, and the question is could you make more of them more quickly, cheaply and easily, if so you could get the time down, and thus make it more profitable.
from a personal point, not sure about the drawer handle though, but the rest looks real good, wish my brush painting was so good.
paul :wink:
from a personal point, not sure about the drawer handle though, but the rest looks real good, wish my brush painting was so good.
paul :wink:
tim
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Good stuff - although I too agree about the handle - but great paint skills as well as a good looking table.
The question to ask is not so much what it cost to make but what can I get for it. Seems like semantics but it depends on how you present it. If you show it as is, it would not be difficult for a potential buyer to see it as a competent, well made but mass produced item - this will lower the perceived value. If you start adding value by describing that its a one off, hand crafted etc etc then your costs haven't changed but the perceived value has. Once you start adding' the extras' then you start to create a brand and that adds extra value as well.
A good test is to show it to a bunch of people (individually or you get crowd valuations which are pointless) - one just showing the table and two (to a separate audience) with a description adding value points. Don't ask how much they would pay - but put a price tag on it and see what reaction people have. I reckon you could easily add £50 just with a couple of words about it.
The reason so many of us who do this for a living do built in/ fitted work is that the perceived value can be understood more readily by consumers thereby giving us a larger value market. Free standing items can be too easily (and incorrectly) compared to mass produced chain store stuff - which can't be competed with on an economic level.
Best of luck
Cheers
Tim
The question to ask is not so much what it cost to make but what can I get for it. Seems like semantics but it depends on how you present it. If you show it as is, it would not be difficult for a potential buyer to see it as a competent, well made but mass produced item - this will lower the perceived value. If you start adding value by describing that its a one off, hand crafted etc etc then your costs haven't changed but the perceived value has. Once you start adding' the extras' then you start to create a brand and that adds extra value as well.
A good test is to show it to a bunch of people (individually or you get crowd valuations which are pointless) - one just showing the table and two (to a separate audience) with a description adding value points. Don't ask how much they would pay - but put a price tag on it and see what reaction people have. I reckon you could easily add £50 just with a couple of words about it.
The reason so many of us who do this for a living do built in/ fitted work is that the perceived value can be understood more readily by consumers thereby giving us a larger value market. Free standing items can be too easily (and incorrectly) compared to mass produced chain store stuff - which can't be competed with on an economic level.
Best of luck
Cheers
Tim
devonwoody
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Nice work, you have some equipment then?
johnelliott
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As usual, Tim makes some very good points. I particularly like his suggestion not to ask people for a price, but to choose a price and ask for reactions.
People are not good at putting a value on things, what they like is to be told a price and then decide for themselves whether it is too high or not.
His point about built-in work is also a good one. This is the reason why I don't even try for work on free standing pieces. If it can simply be delivered and placed in a room, then it can be made abroad, placed in a container, imported to this country, then shown in a shop where customers can choose from several pieces side by side.
John
People are not good at putting a value on things, what they like is to be told a price and then decide for themselves whether it is too high or not.
His point about built-in work is also a good one. This is the reason why I don't even try for work on free standing pieces. If it can simply be delivered and placed in a room, then it can be made abroad, placed in a container, imported to this country, then shown in a shop where customers can choose from several pieces side by side.
John
