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Interesting clips. The first one looks like some sort of 'heavy lifter' of Russian make, these things can take off with a couple of tanks on board in which case I suspect that he'd need all the runway that he could get, so although it looked a bit hairy the pilot timed the take off perfectly. The second clip shows a 747 coming to land in what I assume is one hell of a cross wind (obviously not used to the Falkland Islands :) ) and if you look carefully at how the pilot handled the aircraft, it's a great piece of flying to get such a huge aeroplane down like that. In talking to Paul Chapmans son Scott at length who is now a qualified civil pilot this is exactly the right way to land an aircraft in a howling cross wind - Rob
 
woodbloke":2tnryk6r said:
In talking to Paul Chapmans son Scott at length who is now a qualified civil pilot this is exactly the right way to land an aircraft in a howling cross wind

Yes, we had to do it like that one day when we popped down to the Isle of Wight for a coffee :shock: It tends to look like the pilot has made a ****-up but it's the right way - just make sure you have a spare pair of trousers........ :lol:

Cheers :wink:

Paul
 
woodbloke":5rjlxcn8 said:
it's a great piece of flying to get such a huge aeroplane down like that.

Indeed - badly titled clip but I bet it was pretty quiet on board for the last minute or so!

When I was posted to Hong Kong, we flew in a couple of times like that, hairy stuff. The only other place I've experienced similar crosswinds is Edinburgh, where the winds off the Pentlands meet the Firth of Forth.

Cheers

Tim
 
On this clip the pilot clearly miscalculated the approach to the flight deck. What must be taken into account is that the shot was taken from the centre of the flight deck somewhere, however when the aircraft crossed the carriers stern, the deck may have been pitching 20 or 30 feet maybe from the horizontal, depending on the sea conditions. Again if you look at the clip closely you'll see that the sea conditions are rough (difficult to tell accurately) so this sort of stuff happens frequently, which is why there is an angled flight deck so that if the pilot mistimes the approach (as he did in this case) he can give the motors a bit of wellie and come round for another go. My dad who was in the Fleet Air Arm on the Ark Royal (not the 'new' one :) ) saw a bit of this sort of stuff. It's generally reckoned tho' that the flight deck of a carrier is just about the most dangerous place to work in the world :shock: - Rob
 
I was on the 'new' Ark Royal and the most disturbing thing to watch was the Harriers coming into hover land. They would slide in about 30ft above the flight deck and then pretty much turn the engines off and let the shocks do the work. Putting a lynx down on the back of a frigate at night in a force 7 is also pretty damn impressive to see.
 
I wonder if the crew and possible passengers(?) got out of it in time...choppers don't tend to float for very long - Rob
 
Roger - 'murricans doing that I fancy, can't see anyone from the RAF being remotely allowed to fly multi-million pound aircraft like that...or maybe not? - Rob
 
Seen that before...hilarious :lol: :lol: Having just come back from the South Atlantic I went to San Carlos water. I saw a couple of black and white shots taken at the time of these:

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aircraft which are Argentine Daggers, and they were doing what the Yanks were doing for real...screaming in at below mast height, with drop-tanks, up San Carlos water to attack the shipping...some flying! - Rob
 
Understatement of the year tho' in the commentary when the guy in the tower was talking about finding 'bird debris' on the runway :lol: - Rob
 
As it happens, I am 2/3rds of the way through selection for Air Traffic Control. I went to visit MACC (Manchester Area Control Centre) and was plugged into an area controller and the approach controller. The skill and professionalism is out of this world.

I was also given a tour of the visual control room (the top of the tower). While I was up there, A 747 had to abort its take off, as a flock of birds flew across the runway. This is when I was told about this incident. Quite scary.

It was quite an eventful visit. When I was plugged into the area controller, the royal flight began to transit his airspace. All of a sudden concentration doubled. Special clearance and larger separation is provided to a royal flight. I could see the controller sweating a little.
 

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