New member needing advice on 1st scroll saw purchase!

[mac1012]

the message above the ended listing says he has relisted this item ?

hope you get it ok mate

 

[McCol]

the message above the ended listing says he has relisted this item ?

hope you get it ok mate

I asked him before making payment and he said he had 2 models with same extras etc. If it goes pear shaped I paid using a credit card through paypal so should be covered.

 

[McCol]

Well the Hegner turned up and all seems ok.
Need to a blade/s to test it properly.

The air dust hose was missing though and I've emailed the seller to see if he has it to send on to me. If he doesnt and I need to buy does anybody know where I can source one and for how much. I cant seem to find one on the Hegner site and cant find any on Google.

 

[mac1012]

you need to be more specific as to which part as there is lots of pieces to the whole extraction set up , if you mean the blue flexi hose give them a ring at hegner I sure they can sort you out

as in my earlier post I did notice straight away it didn't look right ! but if everything else you have got is ok you still done well

any pics you can post ?

mark

 

[martinka]

Just in case he hasn't got the blower hose, you can buy a segmented hose very cheap off ebay. You will also need some straight hose to connect the bellows to the segmented piece, then you can possibly connect it to the long ally hold down arm. I made a bracket and bolted it to the 8mm thread that's already in the arm, but tiewraps would do the job too.

 

[McCol]

you need to be more specific as to which part as there is lots of pieces to the whole extraction set up , if you mean the blue flexi hose give them a ring at hegner I sure they can sort you out

as in my earlier post I did notice straight away it didn't look right ! but if everything else you have got is ok you still done well

any pics you can post ?

mark

Here are 3 pics of the Hegner(excuse the clutter around it!)

http://www.flickr.com/photos/16143833@N ... x/?saved=1

http://www.flickr.com/photos/16143833@N ... /lightbox/

http://www.flickr.com/photos/16143833@N ... /lightbox/

Posted these on ipad and can't seem show pics, only the links.

 

[mac1012]

ok on the first pic on the top arm near the back on the left side (when facing the saw) there is a fixing that should have a spring assembly (circular) don't confuse this with the large spring right at the back which is the tensioning spring for blade , on the fixing there is a small threaded hole that is to fix the bracket for the dust blower assembly

as far as I can see you are missing the bracket and allen screw then the clear pipe that runs from the bellows to the bracket and then the blue flexi pipe from the bracket to the blade also there will be some connectors on the bracket that the clear hose and the blue flexi pipe connect to I think

as I said your best bet if you don't want to bodge it is contact hegner I am sure they will sell you the whole assembley which prob will be in the 20-40 pound range for a guess

mark

 

[mac1012]

unless martin can come up with a solution for you with his engineering magic (hammer)

 

[martinka]

Good guess Mark, a retrofit kit is 32 quid. Doing it my way would probably cost a fiver. The flexy segmented pipes are available on Ebay for 1.99 although you have to wait for them to come from China
I don't know about the retrofit one but the original as far as I can see will blow the dust towards the operator. My setup blows it to the side or back.

 

[martinka]

I just noticed the tension rod retaining brackets appear to be missing. There should be one top and bottom at the back end of each arm. Parts 11, 34 & 39

edit: Looks like the vac connector is missing too.

 

[mac1012]

the retro ones do you mean the replacement kit on hegner ? they only sell the old style set up which was available until 2010 after that it is the blue flexi pipe on hegners I think including mine not sure some models may have old system but as you say the blue pipe blows away to side , although I havemy blue flexi pipe fixed to dust extractor so sucks up through the blue pipe and under table , you re-connect pipe from the bellows to the plastic connector at front of machine , having used this I couldn't go back to just blowing the dust away

another good thing now is the base model has quick release tension lever although it is at back of machine the older base models didn't have that

mark

 

[mac1012]

I don't know martin to me it looks like those two brackets you mention are in place ? also there is a metal panel missing on left hand side and as you say the dust collection assembley at the front

 

[martinka]

I don't know martin to me it looks like those two brackets you mention are in place ? also there is a metal panel missing on left hand side and as you say the dust collection assembley at the front

With a bit more squinting, I'd say the bottom one is there, but not the top one. Looking through all the parts diagrams, some don't show a top bracket, so maybe that was standard on earlier machines.

The retrofit kit appears to be a flexi pipe setup that fits where the original fitted. I can't find it now, but I think it's just the same as what's supplied with the post 2010 Multicut 1.

I find that if I use the blower as a sucker, it's too near to the job and gets in my way when cuts are close to each other when cutting portraits and I need my fingers close to the blade.

Martin.

 

[McCol]

Thanks for all the help guys, really is useful as a complete novice at this.

I can take better quality pictures on my camera tomorrow, I used the ipad earlier to take the photos and they are not the best quality.

From what you can see from the current pictures, should I be looking at a refund? I have asked the seller for a partial refund to cover the cost of the dust blow pipe as it was advertised in the listing.

 

[mac1012]

well the refund descision is up to you mate , but I wouldn't cut your nose of to spite your face

first thing is it working ? put a blade in and cut a line check for any knocking sounds , put the machine on a solid hard floor and push down on the table while it is running, this will stop any natural vibration, this will stop you doing it on a kitchen work surface and it jumping about and then messaging us to say why is it vibrating (only kidding) but there will be a bit of vibration unless it bolted down , now if all seems ok I urge you to ring hegner get a price on the parts you need the dust blower assembley for the NEW type of machine and the metal cover and dust vacuum assembley , if you not sure google hegner and click images and you will see whats missing but remember your blower pipes is for newer model have a look at hegner for parts and spares diagram too

then argue for a refund based on that with ebay , on the face of it you could have a 400 pound machine plus the extras which are well over 100 pound so you got a value of over 500 if all brought new IF IF the machine works ok

if you send back I think you will have to stand for the postage I think ? though not sure plus all the hassle of doing it , it could be as simple as few parts , refund for parts, = a working hegner

mark

 

[martinka]

Thanks for all the help guys, really is useful as a complete novice at this.

I can take better quality pictures on my camera tomorrow, I used the ipad earlier to take the photos and they are not the best quality.

From what you can see from the current pictures, should I be looking at a refund? I have asked the seller for a partial refund to cover the cost of the dust blow pipe as it was advertised in the listing.

Better photos all round would help.
Is there a manufacture date on any of the stickers on the saw?
If all the blower and suction parts are missing, which they seem to be, parts from Hegner would be over £50, but you can do it much cheaper. What appears to be a blower pipe is shown in the photo on ebay, but you obviously didn't get it. Maybe it went with the other saw which he used the identical photo for.
As it is, you appear to have a working saw, though you need to run it to confirm that, and I see Mark has just posted about that

Martin.

 

[mac1012]

http://www.hegner.co.uk/common/support/ ... inder.aspx


the link above takes you to the spares diagram for your machine

the parts you are missing (I think ) are

dust blower : 514,600,601,602,603

dust vac assembly 163, 510, 516,517

I think that is all the parts , hope this helps , I guess it all depends how much for the parts but you wont know that unless you email or ring HEGNER !!!! (hammer) sorry just a subtle hint

update, you are not missing the front cover but you need the bolt assembley that part 163 fixes too and I cant identify that correctly

mark

 

[McCol]

Don't really want the hassle of chasing up a refund. I priced the extras that came with the Hegner and they seem to be worth a couple of hundred so I don't mind spending a little to get it up to scratch.

Will be testing when some blades arrive which will hopefully be today or tomorrow.

Will also be ringing Hegner either this afternoon or tomorrow, bit difficult this week as I'm on nights for 2 weeks and sleep till late afternoon but will be ringing them.

I'll post better photos this evening before going to work.

 

[ChrisR]

The flexible jointed blue air pipe with orange ends, as shown in the photo of Martins saw, may be available from a medical equipment supplier, as I understand this type of flexible, jointed tubing was originally developed for the medical profession, I dread to think what the medical use/application is. :shock:

Just a thought, and I doubt the medical tubing is blue, probably colourless.

Take care.

Chris R.

 

[martinka]

The flexible jointed blue air pipe with orange ends, as shown in the photo of Martins saw, may be available from a medical equipment supplier, as I understand this type of flexible, jointed tubing was originally developed for the medical profession, I dread to think what the medical use/application is. :shock:

Just a thought, and I doubt the medical tubing is blue, probably colourless.

Take care.

Chris R.

Chris,

They are mostly sold as coolant hoses these days, for lathes and mills, etc. These are the ones I bought
This is the cheapest I found.

Martin.