Lons
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Digit":2uooe2a2 said:
Not really bothered about being bypassed Roy but I get a little pleasure trying to beat the b******* at their own game :wink:
Bob
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Not really bothered about being bypassed Roy but I get a little pleasure trying to beat the b******* at their own game :wink:
Bob
RogerS
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That was my theory. But it was flawed. My old Worcester had an efficiency of 80%. New one gave 16-18% better. Take my lifetime and more to see a return. But the good news was, the one went outside.
devonwoody
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I've got the first man coming into give me a quote today, I will let you know the damages.
BTW, I thought a householder can still do is own gas service/plumbing and repairs, he must not offer his services to anyone else. Have things drastically changed?
BTW, I thought a householder can still do is own gas service/plumbing and repairs, he must not offer his services to anyone else. Have things drastically changed?
Morning DW
Our daughter recently had a replacement gas boiler fitted by Npower.
New wall hung boiler in the kitchen, new TRV's on all the rad's and a Magnaclean.
I think the price included three years warranty and servicing.
£2,800
Hope that didn't set off the airbag
Cheers
Dave
Our daughter recently had a replacement gas boiler fitted by Npower.
New wall hung boiler in the kitchen, new TRV's on all the rad's and a Magnaclean.
I think the price included three years warranty and servicing.
£2,800
Hope that didn't set off the airbag
Cheers
Dave
RogerS
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devonwoody":3bja7axr said:
That's a good question, dw. My immediate reaction was No but a quick Goggle seems to suggest Maybe.
http://www.miketheboilerman.com/diy.htm
devonwoody
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I recall last year British gas said my boiler had too much ventilation to its casing ( I had a louvred door covering the boiler area in side a kitchen unit area).
OK I said I will change the amount of ventilation spaces to reduce, they said OK.
So I suppose I can do my own service and repairs on that basis.
BTW I am into 3D modelling at the moment Amablis 3D canvas its freeware and makes a change from in the W/S.
its here http://www.amabilis.com/downloads.htm
OK I said I will change the amount of ventilation spaces to reduce, they said OK.
So I suppose I can do my own service and repairs on that basis.
BTW I am into 3D modelling at the moment Amablis 3D canvas its freeware and makes a change from in the W/S.
its here http://www.amabilis.com/downloads.htm
RogerS
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devonwoody":3ksnxxv1 said:
How can they say there is 'too much' ventilation given that you can get gas boilers designed to work outside?
devonwoody
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I didnt argue with the bloke, I gave him a funny look and said yes sir, three bags full sir, three times. and he just made a note on his work sheet.
Three years earlier they said my ventilation around casing was not good enough and I said then I would fit a louvred door, and I did, and then that bloke came along and said!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Three years earlier they said my ventilation around casing was not good enough and I said then I would fit a louvred door, and I did, and then that bloke came along and said!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
wobblycogs
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As I understand it DIY gas is allowed on your own property if you are classed as a competent person (similar to DIY electrics). Have a read of this http://www.diynot.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=8090.
Dibs-h
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Deejay":3cz3431v said:Morning DW
Our daughter recently had a replacement gas boiler fitted by Npower.
New wall hung boiler in the kitchen, new TRV's on all the rad's and a Magnaclean.
I think the price included three years warranty and servicing.
£2,800
Hope that didn't set off the airbag
Cheers
Dave
I find it mind boggling that some one turns up - fits a £800 bolier perhaps another £100 for TRVs, - lets call it £1000 in total, for a job that 1 man can do in 1 day, let alone 2 men in one day. Lets go with the latter - 2 men, 1 day job.
That's £1800 for labour etc. - £900 each. Over £100 per hour. The question is for fceking what? My local Audi dealership has £100k's of investment in equipment in the servicing side, along with probably more in premises, rates, etc. And they don't charge that sort of labour rate, and along comes a person - who lets face it is a technician - not an engineer - who feels he can charge over £100 per hour. Bloody p!ss take!
I don't feel the charging is transparent in anyway shape or form - just purely pushing it as far as they can go short of the customer saying no. But can the customer say no - no heat or hot water and all the players in the game charge the same sort of rate.
Sorry Rant over!
Dibs
RogerS
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Well I got quoted £750 for a power flush today!
Dibs-h
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RogerS":26nzyn83 said:
The machines aren't £10k's - and even if they only had a limited lifespan of say 50 flushes - and you included say £200 for the chap doing it and he even charged mileage to attend - £500 for use of the machine is taking the proverbial.
http://www.abcotuk.co.uk/subcategory.aspx?catid=C3
Machines are < £1k and most throw the "training" in for free. Say another £50 for chemicals and inhibitor - Daylight robbery.
I wonder if you can hire them - must be able.
Dibs
wobblycogs
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Yep, you can hire them for <£100 a day http://www.hss.com/g/51610/Central-Heating-Flusher.html.
We had a boiler, sealed tank and all the required plumbing and exhausts etc fitted a couple of years ago for just over £5k. I forget exactly how the price broke down but it was about:
Boiler: £1k
Hot Water Tank: £1.2k
Other Parts: £1k
Labour: £1.8k (2 guys 6 days = £150/person/day).
We had a boiler, sealed tank and all the required plumbing and exhausts etc fitted a couple of years ago for just over £5k. I forget exactly how the price broke down but it was about:
Boiler: £1k
Hot Water Tank: £1.2k
Other Parts: £1k
Labour: £1.8k (2 guys 6 days = £150/person/day).
RogerS
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Yup..you can hire them. Arrived this morning at 10.30am. The spent the last hours trying to remove the ***** ***** ******* ******* pump.
devonwoody
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First bloke in, wont put new condensing combi boiler where the old one is because it cannot drain into a proper drainage system.
So new position with chimney through ceiling into loft and roof.
New boiler,
new position
rad valves
take away old boiler
new pumps and timer.
Flush system.
One day two men he says.
Holding my breath awaiting quotes.
So new position with chimney through ceiling into loft and roof.
New boiler,
new position
rad valves
take away old boiler
new pumps and timer.
Flush system.
One day two men he says.
Holding my breath awaiting quotes.
devonwoody
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RogerS":2zc78qzb said:
Is it corroded up Roger.
The cost of installing you can blame on the corgi recognition or what ever it is now, its a fixed price cartel?
devonwoody":3jjdwr1u said:
Our plumber didn't plumb into drains. Just dug a soakaway, bag full of rubble, and covered over. AFAIK it doesn't have to go in to the main drain. Methinks there's a job creation scheme going on here. It'll be interesting to see what your quote is. don't hold your breath - we had 4 guys in before we had a written quote. I guess we knew exactly what we wanted so they judged there wouldn't be the opportunity to charge for unnecessary work, or work that would never be done. Or am I just a cynical old b******? Answers on a postcard please.
RogerS
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After receiving excessive quotes, dw decided that the best option was to DIY.
:wink: :lol:
