Need to build a new shed (sigh)

[defsdoor]

Nice one, looks good what foundation you got under it and do you have a pic of the floor frame?

Cheers

I had some sleepers left over from building some planters so used 3 of them for the foundation. Conveniently 8ft long.


I only have a photo of the floor once all the tongue and groove was down but it's nothing special - just 4x2 at 40mm (or 60 I can't remember) centres screwed to the sides, through the sides. All the load is down to the sleepers so this fixing is really just to hold it together.

Then I screwed some temporary stops into 2 sides to jig up the walls.

Did the felting today and the edge trims. I think I've lost my fear of heights but did get a bit dizzy up there when I stood up. I have the windows and door trims to do and a door.

 

[defsdoor]

Hi defsdoor,

I think I'll move to another part of town! In my part of North Brum, eight feet high is too high for planning. Has to be no more than two metres to the ridge or pent. I am a mere 5'6" but I need more headroom than two two metres would give!

I thought it was 2.5 metres - I'm 7cm shy of that

 

[Adam9453]

Hi defsdoor,

I think I'll move to another part of town! In my part of North Brum, eight feet high is too high for planning. Has to be no more than two metres to the ridge or pent. I am a mere 5'6" but I need more headroom than two two metres would give!

If your shed falls within permitted development (which most do) then you can go upto at least 2.5 metres (higher if you're not near the boundaries).

 

[defsdoor]

I had to look - you got me worried.

Outbuildings and garages to be single storey with maximum eaves height of 2.5 metres and maximum overall height of four metres with a dual pitched roof or three metres for any other roof.
Maximum height of 2.5 metres in the case of a building, enclosure or container within two metres of a boundary of the curtilage of the dwellinghouse.

From here - http://www.planningportal.gov.uk/permis ... buildings/

 

[Benchwayze]

Good job I had a nine foot wall built around my yard then! :lol:

Cheers folks.

But I could have sworn it was only two metres; Gas and electric! :mrgreen:
I confess I am not excellent with conversion. So I estimate 2.5 metres to be about 8 feet. (Giving 39 inches per metre)
My present shed is about 7 feet to the ridge. Nowhere near high enough, so I am going to have to convert it to Pent type, to gain height at the front, where the bench will be. (hammer)

 

[Adam9453]

The planning rules did change some years ago so perhaps it used to be 2 metres and has been increased to 2.5 metres when they rejigged it to introduce permitted development rights (permitted development I suspect was mainly introduced to stop councils from having to deal with complaints from the curtain twitchers that like to block reasonable development just because their cat doesn't like the colour).

 

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Here you go -

Very helpful thanks, whats the span between the rows of piers?

Cheers

 

[Benchwayze]

As for planning regs, I am a Brum, but I live in Walsall to be exact, and you know Walsall folk like to be different.

 

[Paul200]

The centres are 1.33m. I did have concerns about this but you can probably see from the picture that the original base was badly broken in between these widths on one end so, being a lazy person of uncertain parentage, I just went for it - and it's OK. In the end it's just somewhere to sit and chill so I'm not too bothered if it flexes a bit - but it doesn't so I'm happy! I parked myself up there earlier with a glass of something outrageously alcoholic and wondered if I really want to build the rest of it! Very pleasant.

 

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The centres are 1.33m. I did have concerns about this but you can probably see from the picture that the original base was badly broken in between these widths on one end so, being a lazy person of uncertain parentage, I just went for it - and it's OK. In the end it's just somewhere to sit and chill so I'm not too bothered if it flexes a bit - but it doesn't so I'm happy! I parked myself up there earlier with a glass of something outrageously alcoholic and wondered if I really want to build the rest of it! Very pleasant.

Nice one, so did you not remove the old concrete base just cast new concete over it or did you just smash up were the piers went?

 

[Nishing]

Never mind you already sed you didnt remove it, how did u manage to concrete them down on pads if u didnt remove the old concrete?

From the pic it looks like the blocks are sitting on old slab?

Cheers

 

[Paul200]

Not sure how deep it goes down but I smacked the bits I wanted to use with a 7lb sledgehammer and they 'rang' so I decided that was good enough for me. I cast the blocks on top of it. Wouldn't surprise me if it's founded on solid rock - our house is at the base of a steep rocky slope (there's a small quarry just along from where I'm building where we suspect the stone for our house came from) and there are rocky outcrops all over.

 

[Paul200]

The original tractor shed was built eons ago and an oak tree demolished it about 10 years ago. There were no doors in evidence when I cleared it all away so I guess the frost has had it's way with the front of the base and broken it up but, like I said, it's solid enough to use as a hardcore base for my blocks.

 

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I see, this morning im thinking about a concrete base again as it seems it gonna be probaly half the price of buying a shedload of floor joists, plywood and blocks ...

Hmm....

 

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Cheapest quote i got was £200 and that involves me lugging 20+ wheelbarrows, im just gonna pour a strip footing around the perimeter of the shed and build my walls on that, then ill install a solid floor at a later date

 

[Benchwayze]

My backyard was paved already. I got some decking, and 4 x 2s to build a platform. Levelled the platform, and bolted down to that. If the 'Breezy-Pheasey' estate weather lifts it, well so be it! (I.e. a calculated risk.) :mrgreen:

 

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Changed my mind again! 2x4 frame resting on blocks every 40cm

Can i just have the joists running the width of the shed and noggins in between or does having a beam running the length in the middle make it much stronger?

Just looking to make it as cheap as possible without it being to weak

Cheers

 

[Nishing]

Ok having thought about it i want to use 2x2 for the walls, 3x2 for the floor and 4x2 for the roof, does this sound ok ?

Gonna have 18mm osb on the floor, will blocks every 40cm be ok?

Thanks

 

[Paul200]

I've just put my 18mm OSB3 floor down (4x2 resting on blocks at 60cm x 130cm with noggins every 60cm) and it's fine. Well pleased with it.

 

[Nishing]

Nice any pics

What size are/did you use for the walls and roof?