Need planer/Thicknesser and table saw

[chipster]

Hi Guys,

I am a new forum user and new woodworker. I am looking for a half decent thicknesser/planer and table saw. The intended use is cleaning rough sawn oak up to 8" wide.

It seems the machines I need is either a little bit aluminium flimsy or out of my price range so I thought I'd see if any of you guys had old gear knocking about?

I was thinking maybe upto £300 for the planer/Thicknesser and upto £150 for the table saw.

Cheers my dears

 

[TheTiddles]

You'll struggle at those prices and don't forget to add on £200 for the extractor

Aidan

 

[Steve Maskery]

In that budget you would be well advised to search for something second-hand.

I have a Kity 637 and they occasionally come up on eBay and go for that sort of money. Maybe a tad more. But the Kity is a decent machine. Not top-class, but solid and can be made to sing.

Tablesaw for 150? Probably not, tbh.


Cheers
Steve

 

[SVB]

Cough :wink:

https://www.ukworkshop.co.uk/forums/viewtopic.php?t=34041

Not sure where abouts in UK you are but the saw is in Glos but I visit the Southampton / Bournemouth area reasonably regularly.

More info on the saw here

Can sort some photos out if you are interested.

Simon

 

[Steve Maskery]

There you go, Chipster, bite his hand off!
S

 

[chipster]

Hi guys,

Thanks for the help and thanks Simon for the offer.

Looks like I am going top blow my budget on the planer thicknesser. You guys where right nothing even used for under £300 is half decent.

I am torn between a used "Axminster planer thicknesser AW106PT not wadkin kitty" and a used "PLANER THICKNESSER KITY (1)637"

Any expert advise would be very much appreciated. Both are on ebay at the moment and both look in good condition. A price guide would also be good.

Cheers my dears

Garry new the boy...

 

[OPJ]

Looking at the AW106PT (which I also own :wink, he doesn't mention how old the machine is but, judging by the fact that it comes with the old aluminium fence (nothing wrong with that!), I reckon it's got to be two-years old. Back then, these machines were selling for a little over £500. Now, they're much closer to £700!

You'd do well to get it four around £300. However, with the current bid at over £100 and with eight days to go, I'd expect that to rise somewhat... At 150kg, this isn't the kind of thing that'll fit in the back of your car either!

On the Kity machine, the capacities are fairly similar but I cannot find a new price for this model. There's no long to go on the auction so, if you can get it for the the same money or less than what I've mentioned above then, I reckon you'll have done very well indeed! :wink:

 

[chipster]

Cheers Olly,

Got up early this morning intent on buying the kity 637 for around £300. My maximum bid would have been £350. The machine sold for £430. I didnt even bother to bid.

I am going down to axminster to get myself a nice new machine. They have the AW106PT2 for £647.50 at the moment including a cast iron fence.

Gonna run the blades down, chip the bed a couple of times and get it back on ebay next year for £650 "buy it now fools".

Seriously, for the extra I'll get the warranty, iron fence, support, sharp new blades.

My budget started at £200, then £300, then £300 just for the planer/thicknesser, then £400 now I am spending £650 just to get covered in chippings. Hope my my little henry vac can cope with them cos i cant afford the extractor now.

Anyone made a home made extractor?

Cheers my dears

 

[OLD]

If i thickness softwood with no extraction on my m/c the chips can get under the roller and dent the surface.But like you have found out s/h woodwork m/c's get good prices.

 

[OPJ]

If you can afford to buy a brand new one then, by all means, go for it. As you say, Axminster will indeed 'cover your back' during the one-year warranty. :wink: Even if you bought a second-hand machine, they would still be able to provide you with technical advice, you would have to pay for any spare parts. I still think it's worth keeping an eye out on eBay, as these models seem to appear fairly frequently.

In the long run, you will need to buy a dedicated chip extractor for use with your planer/thicknesser (they're also good for router tables and spindle moulders). Your Henry vacuum is better suited to collecting fine sawdust and waste from power tools. Initially, though, you might be okay - it is better than nothing, after all!

My biggest gripe with the AW106PT is that I find the dust extraction to be a little disappointing, with shavings often left on the bed and, as OLD suggests, getting caught up in the rollers when planing wider boards. Taking shallower cuts does help to reduce this though. Best of luck with your purchase!

 

[Anonymous]

Chipster

Your budget will get you and 10" wide SIP planer thicknesser - I have owned one for 6 years and it is still going very well indeed. Only issue was a drive belt failed a couple of years ago but cost under a tenner to fix.

The tablesaw budget is unrealistic and a mistake. Save more money and then look at circa £400 tablesaws such as Kity or Axminster clone

 

[chipster]

Cheers all for your help.

Ended up getting I think a quick bargain. Let me know what you think please.

Axminster planer thicknesser AW106PT (Aluminium fence) £425
Junior Whitehead disc sander and linisher £150
Dust extractor £50 sucks like mad too.
2 head bench grinder £15
5 box wood handle chisels, 2 saws, 2 squares and some other bits and pieces. £60

Still need a tablesaw if anyone has one for sale. I already maxed my budget so theres not a lot available.

Cheers guys

Garry

 

[slemishwoodcrafts]

Hi,

What sort of extractor did you get for £50?

Regards,

Michael

 

[Steve Maskery]

Obviously my Kity is worth more than I thought! That's nice to know.

I, too, would like to know what sort of DX capable of servicing a 10" P/T you got for £50.

 

[chipster]

Hi Guys,

I only bought it as temporary until I can afford a better one. It is better than the henry vac surerly

You ready - Its an "INCA" - Think its from Peru

Now you have finished laughing how about some congrats on the other stuff I bought or is it all rubbish.

Still need a table saw ..... Anyone .....

 

[OPJ]

I think you've done well to get the planer thicknesser at that price. Same goes for all that other stuff (someone should've warned you about The Slope!! :wink.

A name alone on that extractor isn't enough, I'm afraid... Is it a twin-bag, HVLP machine [ideally!] with a filter bag above the collection bag?

 

[chipster]

Hi Olly,

You know, I know now I have started spending its never gonna end. Once I am kitted out I will be looking for better gear, then more gear. then better gear. every morning will be like grounghog day.

The extractor may be a little weak.Its only 350w but its almost half a horse power and horses are pretty strong. There is the one dust bag above with a collection bag below. It does seem to have good suction,we'll see. If its not strong enough I'll use it on the sander and "BUY" another one later.

Cheers my dears

Garry

 

[OPJ]

That does sound like the correct type of extractor, with one bag over the other. Don't get hung up on the motor power though - airflow is more important with these extractors. That's often specified on the side of the motor... For a 10" wide planer/thicknesser, you ideally want an airflow of no less than 1,000m³/hour. Bigger is always better although, you should be able to manage with slightly less.

As I've mentioned before, extraction isn't perfect on this machine and you should be able to remove most of the waste. It will almost certainly leave some on the bed, no matter what you try. My best advice is to finish with cuts no greater than 1mm each face, especially on wide boards.

 

[chipster]

Cheers for the advise, I am on a big learning curve so need any input I can get thanks.

I need to buy some sash clamps and a table saw. Anyone....

I am in West Yorkshire.

Cheers - Garry