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slate1234

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Hi all I have now got all the machines on my wish list, I am producing things I sell as I am joiner bye trade but I do need some help with my workshop setup it is 6.2m x6.2m block walls with cavity and insulation, concrete floor with insulation, I will do a drawing of the above showing doors windows ect, I wish I had fond this forum years ago I spend hours reading past post's and you blow me away with some of the things you produce I take my hat of to you all, the thing I lack is patience I think it must come from site work where everyone one is going hell for leather I have made a few things for the house but would like to start making doors, architraves, skirting ect, I would also like to make jewelry box's for christmas present's but I fell like an ***** asking for help being a joiner, but like I have said I will post a drawing and start there,
slate
 
Hi Slate,

Although both site joinery / carpentry and workshop based joinery / cabinetmaking share similar skills the approach, as youve found is surprisingly different.

One of my customers is a site chippie, he often asks us to make built in cupboards but we are so busy with joinery, Ive found it easier to have him come into the workshop and do it himself. He is very good but he struggles because he doesnt start with a cutting list and dimension breakdowns, so parts a made piecemeal and measured from one to another.
 
That is what I find myself doing I never draw anything out it's always in my head I need to start drawing out and makeing proper cutting list's as you say.
slate
 
I can't comment on the influence of site work but, as a veteran of many furniture making courses, I can say that the fellow students who struggle are those who have not thought through a project in all its structural detail and the only way to be sure that you have done this is to draw it. Traditional drawing techniques are fine, but I would strongly recommend that you learn to draw in 3D using CAD. Sketchup is free and very widely used so there is plenty of support out there. The important thing about drawing in 3D is that you can't fudge the details and it is these that can so easily trip you up. It is also very easy to take dimensions off the drawing to help you compile the all important cutting list. CAD will be a slog to start with but once you become reasonably proficient you'll wonder how you managed without it.

Jim
 
cutting list will change your entire outlook on the world. It will sooth and calm you. Spend just a little time doing a cutting list and your brain can drop down a gear and rest a little, giving you the capacity to deal with other things. Quality, Speed, H&S & a good nights sleep are all boosted when you have a cutting list and a *** packet sketch. You will be a LOT quicker for it in the long run.
 

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