my next project

[sunnybob]

I need to repair my old plane.

this is how it looks now

It was originally a 23 inch long edward preston of around 1900 vintage.

But it had woodworm both ends. i thought i'd killed the little so and so's but they came back. i had no option but to chop off all the infected wood and burn it. The main piece i have left though is hole free and looks as good as the day it was first made.

So, I believe I need whats called a "sympathetic" restoration. How would you join new beech end grain to old beech end grain to make this a full length plane again?

 

[ColeyS1]

I need to repair my old plane.

this is how it looks now

It was originally a 23 inch long edward preston of around 1900 vintage.

But it had woodworm both ends. i thought i'd killed the little so and so's but they came back. i had no option but to chop off all the infected wood and burn it. The main piece i have left though is hole free and looks as good as the day it was first made.

So, I believe I need whats called a "sympathetic" restoration. How would you join new beech end grain to old beech end grain to make this a full length plane again?

Maybe a little late, but a freezer seems to kill the buggers. I bought some nice wooden g clamps that were riddled with worm. I put them in some carrier bags and intended to put them in the freezer for a few days- I found them a month or so later :lol:

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[Mr T]

Might be easier to make a new plane using the blade and handle.

Chris

 

[novocaine]

purely because they seem to be loved by everyone.

domino jointer.

would you be better making it as a mortise and dropping what you have left in instead? loads are glue area all round and you can pin it from the sides.

 

[Hot stuff]

Good thinking, That would be dead easy and give you a chunky plane with a bit of heft to it.
Makes me want to go and try that.

 

[sunnybob]

I dont have the skill to make an entirely new plane.
To be honest, I dont even use planes, but i thought it would be nice to rebuild this as a wall hanger mainly because of its age but also as something new to try to do.

This lump is 80 mm square now, if I was to slot that into a bigger piece of beech that wouldnt be even remotely as was, would it? It would have to be 100 mm square at least.

Dont have a biscuit jointer, and certainly not going to buy one just to rebuild this.

Still thinking.....

 

[ColeyS1]

If twer me I epoxy resin some m10+ threaded bar into the new and existing timber- maybe 3 or 4 bits. Wipe first with acetone then go to town filling the holes until it squeezing out from everywhere. Was the freezer comment not useful ?

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[Phil Pascoe]

I dont have the skill to make an entirely new plane.

You probably have, go for it - you're just scared. If you haven't, so what - you throw a few quid away.
Otherwise, dowels.

 

[sunnybob]

Coley, the woodworm sections are long burnt. what you see is what I have. there are no holes anywhere in the bit thats left so no point in freezing it.
I was originally thinking about 4 or 5 dowels in each face, with lots of glue. And maybe a brass band around the whole thing. But then its getting too silly isnt it?
I have studding and epoxy, just need to find a suitable piece of beech. I normally buy planks, so maybe I will lay up a few thicknesses to give it an engineered effect.

Phil, no way could I cut that shaped hole for the wedge and blade. Recessing the handle into the new bit is well within my skill set though.

 

[ColeyS1]

I was thinking more if you ever come across the same situation again- just chuck it in the freezer. Unless it's really special, I'm not sure it's worth the effort tbh.

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[Mr T]

You could make one Krenov style. Preoare a block then cut the two sides off about 10mm thick, then the central part can be shaped for the blade opening, then glue to whole lot back together. I'm sure there must be some videos of utube on this here's one from a quick search https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XX7wMaZ6jus. A bit machine based but it doesn't have to be.

Chris

 

[xy mosian]

Colour the ends with Brown Kiwi, boot polish, age the thing with a hammer. Then auction it as a rare Vintage Block Plane.
xy

 

[sunnybob]

Thats definitely an option.

 

[woodbrains]

Hello,

I thought your next project was a nest of tables!

TBH the chances of joining two pieces of beech onto the centre section, and actually having the plane work for planing wood is extremely remote. The likelihood of the sole remaining flat and coplanar is very small. Especially considering that doing things like gluing on full length side cheeks to consolidate the lot, would mean the little you have left would need further slicing up and you would lose the abutments. I would use this as an opportunity to make a new one, with your middle section as a reference for making the abutments, mouth wear, blade bed etc.

Or else just make a cosmetic fix and use as a shelf ornament.

Mike.

 

[Bm101]

Go for it Bob. Bit of 1/4 sawn beech. Use the bits you have, make the body. No reason to believe you can't except self doubt. If you mess it up then you mess it up. You'e not talking some mad rare exotic wood that costs you your mortgage now are you. Crack on old son.

 

[sunnybob]

Mike, the guy that sparked off the nesting tables debate has just taken a years contract to a place I cant mention without killing all of you, so thats well to back burner now.

to be honest I'm looking for a bit of light relief. I've mentioned that I dont like timetables, well i got suckered again with a mate (who'd 'ave 'em, 'ay?) for a pair of boxes, and these "expletive deleted" things have "expletive deleted" fought me "expletive deleted" tooth and nail. I want something to make me smile for a while.
And be honest, looking at a plane 3 1/2" square x 5" long, with a handle alongside, youve gotta laugh, havent you?