"Money for Nothing" BBC1

[Eric The Viking]

Just happened across this. Perhaps it should be retitled "Nothing for (lots of) Money"?

It's depressing how clumsy some of these "artisans" seem to be, and how nasty the output seems.

Or did I just fall out of bed the wrong side this morning?

Discuss...

E.

PS: I'm totally in favour of recycling and re-purposing old stuff, but this wasn't it (IMHO).
PPS: Liked the Danish (G-plan) table/drinks trolley they showed, but even that wasn't wonderful.

 

[Phil Pascoe]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BUnvgKhWZdI

They always seem to find a market.

 

[kevinlightfoot]

But these are "Master Craftsmen"!!!!

 

[MrTeroo]

Your TVs remote should have some buttons that allow you to choose another channel more to your liking.
It should be in the user manual.

Or you could go back to bed

 

[whatknot]

I have watched a couple of these, more in sheer surprise that anyone would buy such garbage

Its obviously cheap TV to fill some time, much as a lot of stuff on TV these days

I watched one where she got an old sideboard, which the "craftsman" dissected and added some mdf panels, frankly the original was only good for a garage storage unit in the first place and the result was worse and fit for the tip, I forget what they supposedly sold it for but I think the craftsman was paid about £500

Another was a pair of wrought iron gates turned into a bed (?)

Beyond silly and beyond belief that any of it is genuine

Just happened across this. Perhaps it should be retitled "Nothing for (lots of) Money"?

It's depressing how clumsy some of these "artisans" seem to be, and how nasty the output seems.

Or did I just fall out of bed the wrong side this morning?

Discuss...

E.

PS: I'm totally in favour of recycling and re-purposing old stuff, but this wasn't it (IMHO).
PPS: Liked the Danish (G-plan) table/drinks trolley they showed, but even that wasn't wonderful.

 

[Phil Pascoe]

There was a programme some while ago featuring a guy in a "studio" in Sandbanks or somewhere where he had tied a bundle of driftwood together and put a lamp in the middle. A bloke came in said I like that, how much? £400, Fine, can you deliver it to my house? Yes.
His and hers Porsches gave away there might have been some money about, the living room was about 40' x 40', painted white.with nothing in it barring driftwood junk. I wouldn't have put it in my garden let alone my living room.

 

[treeturner123]

Hi Guys

Sorry to disagree, but I have found the series a starting point for ideas of my own. I also think that it is great to try to encourage people to re-cycle items rather than throw it away.

Anyway, who are we to castigate buyers fro spending large sums of money on had crafted items?? Is it a bit of jealousy?

Phil

 

[whatknot]

Sorry Phil but the items they do are quite ridiculous and I for one do not believe they actually do what they say

I have only seen a couple of the episodes, so perhaps there are other more worthy projects they have done, but those I have seen are quite silly to say the least

I am fully in favour of recycling or reusing items, in fact I feel stronger about the subject the older I get, I am of a generation where nothing was thrown out and everything was reused, even spent matches, boxes, bags, Christmas wrapping paper etc etc

During the war years my parents had to reuse everything, it was the norm, rather than todays throw away society

But taking two perfectly serviceable wrought iron gates, and chopping them up to make a bed ? a bed they paid someone £600 or so to make, then surprise surprise they couldn't sell it

Just out of curiosity I skipped through another episode on iplayer, it had someone dumping old floorboards, she took them to someone and paid them £1100 !! to make them into a table

I would say the majority of subscribers to this forum could have done as good a job for next to nothing

And she "sold" it to a shop for £1300 , yes of course she did

I am certainly not jealous of turning trash into worse trash

Hi Guys

Sorry to disagree, but I have found the series a starting point for ideas of my own. I also think that it is great to try to encourage people to re-cycle items rather than throw it away.

Anyway, who are we to castigate buyers fro spending large sums of money on had crafted items?? Is it a bit of jealousy?

Phil

 

[Phil Pascoe]

Yes, I've nothing against doing up junk and making "art" out of rubbish - but to pretend they then sell it quickly and easily for stupid money is stretching credulity more than a little.

 

[MrTeroo]

I have only seen a couple of the episodes, so perhaps there are other more worthy projects they have done, but those I have seen are quite silly to say the least

Anthony Devine is a very accomplished upholsterer. Norman Wilkinson, who made the table from the floorboards creates some great stuff. Kev Paxton, the Scottish blacksmith creates some beautiful items from scrap metal. Have a look at what he did with a washing machine.
The two boys in Sussex, Josh and Oli create some nice pieces eg the skateboards.

I wouldn't give up your day job to become a reviewer if you are going to base your review on two episodes.

I would say the majority of subscribers to this forum could have done as good a job for next to nothing

And your point is? The items are sent to businesses, not hobbyists.

 

[thetyreman]

often half of the stuff doesn't sell, it's also the kind of show that keeps the hypster/upcycle market going for just that bit longer, at the same time the 'master craftsman' who bodges old chairs together with screws and glue and turns it into an aweful looking bench... the only people who benefit from it are the 'artisans' if you can even call them that.

I'm not jealous in the slightest, I just genuinely hate the show, they don't understand the meaning of artisan or master craftsman at all...

There was one where the woman in it turned some useable old saws from the 1800s into 'saw art' it was very cingeworthy, she made a ridiculous profit selling it to a soho based hypster shop who then probably sold it to a banker or wealthy MP, try doing that in salford...

 

[MrTeroo]

Maybe this forum should be renamed

www.ukcurmudgeonshop.co.uk

 

[rafezetter]

I've been following this series for a while - I've probably watched at least 2 seasons of it, and while some of the projects do turn out well, a good portion of the rest don't sell as of when it's aired and that must be a reasonable amount of time later - I'd say at least a couple of months if not longer.

It seems like the only people making regular money out of it are the artisans being paid to convert the items - I know some of them are good at what they do normally, others like Oli & Josh have limited skillsets and a low attention to detail (like sanding marks); but again they are getting paid to do the work so they are still "winning".

I have to say though some of the prices the artisans charge for the work seems quite a lot, compared to items seen on Ebay and the like, some of which are easily equal in quality.

Bring back "The Salvager" !

 

[Lons]

Hi Guys

Sorry to disagree, but I have found the series a starting point for ideas of my own. I also think that it is great to try to encourage people to re-cycle items rather than throw it away.

Anyway, who are we to castigate buyers fro spending large sums of money on had crafted items?? Is it a bit of jealousy?

Phil

If you want to create stuff like that then good luck to you and if you like it then that's your choice, I hope you can sell it and maybe make enough money to buy similar junk for yourself 'cos that's exactly what it is imho - junk!

I am all in favour of recycling and upcyling and have plenty of really nice hardwood and general materials saved from the skip but the stuff produced on that show is rough to say the least and the show itself is typical of some of the rubbish being screened at the minute. It's up there with the "do up your house with cardboard and paper in half a day and next to no cost" programs, as a "woodworker" you should know better. :wink:

Some of the guys on the program might be skilled but can't be blamed for laughing all the way to the bank with the TV money being thrown at them.

cheers
Bob

 

[MrTeroo]

I've been following this series for a while - I've probably watched at least 2 seasons of it, and while some of the projects do turn out well, a good portion of the rest don't sell as of when it's aired and that must be a reasonable amount of time later - I'd say at least a couple of months if not longer.

It seems like the only people making regular money out of it are the artisans being paid to convert the items - I know some of them are good at what they do normally, others like Oli & Josh have limited skillsets and a low attention to detail (like sanding marks); but again they are getting paid to do the work so they are still "winning".

I have to say though some of the prices the artisans charge for the work seems quite a lot, compared to items seen on Ebay and the like, some of which are easily equal in quality.

Bring back "The Salvager" !

Limited skill set lol

http://forgecreative.co/furniture/

http://forgecreative.co/art/

 

[Lons]

Your TVs remote should have some buttons that allow you to choose another channel more to your liking.
It should be in the user manual.

Or you could go back to bed

Maybe this forum should be renamed http://www.ukcurmudgeonshop.co.uk

Or maybe you should look at yourself and if the cap fits :wink:
If you aren't happy with the forum there are plenty of others perhaps more suited to your demeanour

 

[MrTeroo]

Or maybe you should look at yourself and if the cap fits :wink:

Maybe you should check your grammar before you post

Who made you thread prefect by the way?

 

[Lons]

Or maybe you should look at yourself and if the cap fits :wink:

Maybe you should check your grammar before you post

Who made you thread prefect by the way?

No-one but then who made you thread critic?
Perhaps instead of telling a member to change channel or stay in bed you should have offered constructive comment.

Anyway I don't much care what you do fella, your choice after all. :lol:

 

[MrTeroo]

No-one but then who made you thread critic?

Thread critic? I think you need to google free speech

Perhaps instead of telling a member to change channel or stay in bed you should have offered constructive comment.

Maybe you need to google context as well?

Or did I just fall out of bed the wrong side this morning?

Discuss...

E.

 

[Lons]

Maybe you need to get a life or perhaps you already do if you're watching dross all day. :lol:

Anyway, end of "discussion" as I really can't be bothered to argue with a ............. :lol: Have a good day fella, what's left of it!

BYE